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FIRE HIM & Get Your Money Back Now!

Posted by Scott_Herman - July 17th, 2015

In this day and age there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for trainers that disrespect their clients.  Whether it is teaching improper form, talking on their cell phone during a training session or just plain not paying attention, you need to take action NOW!

As a client you are putting YOUR money, YOUR life and YOUR future in the hands of a stranger.  Don’t victimize yourself because you are afraid to fire your trainer or tell them to pay attention to YOUR needs during a workout session.  Always be in control of your life and your gains in the gym.

With the rise in social media and the continuous spread of top notch information on YouTube (ESPECIALLY if they watch ScottHermanFitness videos… haha), any trainer should be able to find what they need to help you reach your goals regardless of the level of their education.

With that being said, Justin from @HybridPhysiques and I hope you enjoy our video talking about horrible personal trainers and the bad habits that anger us the most!

If you have a horrible trainer a story of your own, be sure to tell us about it in the comment section below!

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Hi Scott

You are so right in saying that there are good trainers and bad trainers.  In addition, I think there is a third type of trainer, “good trainer that does not keep up or tries to train everyone like he trains.”  I’d like to share my experience with the later and the devastating injury as a result.

Three and a  half years ago I decided I wanted to hire a trainer to help me reduce body fat and increase muscle.  There was a new trainer at 24 Hour Fitness where I had been working out for the past 25 years.  The guy had the “perfect physique and had been in many physique completions.” So I figured a guy that had done it for himself could possibly help me do the same. 

I trained every week and for some periods multiple times a week for the entire 3 ½ tears without interruption.  The good news during that period is my body fat dropped from 28% to 11%, and I gained 15 pounds.  Sounds good so far, eh?

I always had trouble with pain in my shoulders, particularly my right shoulder.  For the first 2 years shoulder exercises  could not be performed.  Suddenly my shoulders became stronger and we started exercising that body part regularly. 

For a week before January 21, this year, I had mentioned to my trainer that I was experiencing pain in my right shoulder.  On Jan. 21, we started a training session with bench presses, even after I questioned if this was a  smart thing to do given my current pain.    My trainer, now the manger of personal trainers at this club,  had trained me to perform a bench press by lowering the bar to my chest and then back up.  Unfortunately, when I touched my chest with the bar, my elbows were about 30-40 degrees to my torso.  As I was lifting the bar off my chest with my elbows at about 45 degrees to the torso, the supraspinatus tendon in my right shoulder snapped in two, my right arm paralyzed, and as the bar slide to the back of the palm of my hand and crashed into my chest.  This injury not only destroyed the tendon in my shoulder, but also damaged a nerve in my right wrist which has left 3 of my fingers unable to feel anything.

At first I thought this was just an accident.  But since seeing your video on how to do a proper bench press, I now know this injury was a direct result of being trained improperly on how to do the exercise.  Beside not keeping up with current trends in the industry, I can only think that my trainer was training me how to do bench presses like he does.  The only problem is that my trainer is 5 inches shorted than me, arms are 6-8 inches shorter that mine, and his chest is 6-8 inches bigger that mine.  Thus when he does a bench press, his elbows are at 90 degrees when he touches his chest.

I had a very successful surgery and have been in physical therapy to rebuild my right shoulder for the past 9 months.  It’s going to take at least a couple of more months before I can return to weight lifting on that side of my body, 

Can you tell me if you came up with the concept of the 90 degree bench press or was this common knowledge to the training world and when.  I plan on discussing this with my “fired” trainer.   I want him to assume responsibility for what he has done and make sure he does not cripple anyone else in the future.


ps  He’s “fired”, and you are “Hired”


I would never pay a local gym PT unless he/she looked like he know what he/she talks about. Sure there are diffrent lvls of those courses with the easiest being so light they could just aswell hand it out in Kellogs Frosties boxes. My gym owner and his girlfriend are PT´s but I would never in my life pay for their service since I doubt their knowledge. However my almost local Fitness appearal and Supplements store owner I could and most likely will pay for but he has been a bodybuilder and competed for well over 25 years and handles some of the top bodybuilder here in Sweden. All from training to nutrition. 


Why hire a trainer when you can join this site? 

Scott_Herman  Edit  Delete  Close

haha, that's not a bad thing @faithbramlett!!  You should be talking down to the unsolicited advice.  They need to know they are wrong!

FaithBramlett  Edit  Delete  Close

@scott_herman I must confess, I have become a little snobby lmao At the gym some questionable trainers try to dish unsolicited advice, and I'm like no. Scott & everyone on MS are my gurus 

Fox84  Edit  Delete  Close

that is very true, just about a week ago , my neighbor downstairs ask me if i wanted him to talk to his friend so he can by my trainer, i said that its cool, i told him i already have Scott Herman as my trainer, and i told him if Scott is busy, then he has an awesome staff of people who are really awesome too and they are my good friends, so i told him i didnt need anyone else.


Scott, brings me to the problem of finding a trainer in the first place- 50 something years old, need someone to get my blood flowing again, lose a little weight, cardio and excercise while recognizing I am not as young as before.  Need a little nurturing, don't respond well to aggressive pushing, need someone who is at least gay-friendly.  Don't know how to begin to track down trainer right for me- how do I go about it?

BrandonFertig  Edit  Delete  Close

Observe the trainers in your gym. Watch their actions and how they interact with their clients. That would be a start. 


I think a good tip is to watch a trainer workout before you consider hiring him/her. If you see them half reppin and using crappy form...then you know you can avoid them.

Problem is, new lifters don't know any better. That's how they suck them in and that's why you see more and more people using crappy form and not using full ROM.

But this video will let them know about what trainers are good and bad! Nice work @scott_herman and @hybridphysiques (Justin)!!


There's a new trainer at my gym who never racks his weights. Smh