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20 sets max and then leave the gym ? your point of view to that?

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Posted By: JoeHurricane

Good points.

 

That's why pyramid styles of training can be good, because you are lifting heavy but also incorporating volume, do you agree?

 

Also, here's something to ponder...

 

Instead of focusing on using heavy weights to create maximum tension, you might be better off with light weight and higher volume.

 

Why? Because with lighter weight, you can utilise the tempo a lot easier, really focus on slow negatives and controlling the weight. This means that you are still activating the muscle and contracting the muscle just as much, if not more, and with lighter weight, you are more likely to use proper form to get the most out of your workout.

 

When using heavier weights, people tend to let their form waver and focus more on making sure the weight goes from point A to point B by all means necessary.

True. I think it all comes down to relative strength. You must be able to actually contract the muscle, control the weight and create tension.

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@Scott_Herman I know you wanted to say something... i am sure you did ! and then you didn't ^^

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Dammit @crood!!!! I typed SO MUCH STUFF!!!!

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ok @crood,

 

So basically I said that I go for 16 - 24 sets max for each muscle group. For smaller muscles I stay closer to 16 for bigger ones I go to 24.

 

Now.. I also count BURNSETS / DROPSETS as multiple sets.

 

So for example if I were to do a burnset on squats. 295lbs for 8 reps, 245lbs for 8 reps, 185lbs for 15 reps... even though its a burnset with no rest, it still counts as 3 sets.

 

So if I do that for all three "workings sets" of my squats, technically that is 9 sets total :)

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Posted By: Scott_Herman

ok @crood,

 

So basically I said that I go for 16 - 24 sets max for each muscle group. For smaller muscles I stay closer to 16 for bigger ones I go to 24.

 

Now.. I also count BURNSETS / DROPSETS as multiple sets.

 

So for example if I were to do a burnset on squats. 295lbs for 8 reps, 245lbs for 8 reps, 185lbs for 15 reps... even though its a burnset with no rest, it still counts as 3 sets.

 

So if I do that for all three "workings sets" of my squats, technically that is 9 sets total :)

Aha! here we go. So it's per 'muscle group' for you too.

What i didn't understand is how some say 20 sets max and then leave the gym.

 

And yeah i get easily 10 sets already on squads (with warmup and working my way up in weight), then another 4 sets on prone curls, another 4 sets on leg presses, and another 4 sets on calve raises on leg day.

that's 22 all together, but i have my bi's and traps that day as well.. each with 2-4 exercises of 4x 10 so here we are nearing easily another 16 sets, which would end up being 38 sets that day.

 

And i was wondering how some say you should maximal do 20 -25 sets "all together" in a day and then go home. As i assumed that either leaves you just doing like 3 exercises for just 1 musclegroup, or when working many musclegroups it might leave you with too little result or when done with heavy weights prolly rather in the "strentgh" section, as Joe also pointed out a bit.

 

i do half of my body on 2 days a week and the other half on another 2 days. For the life of me i don't even feel like i had done anything if i would leave after 20 sets already hehe :)

 

But as we all agreed above already, we all function a bit different. And apparently that is not so much how i function. I seem to be a volume-princess lol

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Aha! here we go. So it's per 'muscle group' for you too.

What i didn't understand is how some say 20 sets max and then leave the gym.

 

And yeah i get easily 10 sets already on squads (with warmup and working my way up in weight), then another 4 sets on prone curls, another 4 sets on leg presses, and another 4 sets on calve raises on leg day.

that's 22 all together, but i have my bi's and traps that day as well.. each with 2-4 exercises of 4x 10 so here we are nearing easily another 16 sets, which would end up being 38 sets that day.

 

And i was wondering how some say you should maximal do 20 -25 sets "all together" in a day and then go home. As i assumed that either leaves you just doing like 3 exercises for just 1 musclegroup, or when working many musclegroups it might leave you with too little result or when done with heavy weights prolly rather in the "strentgh" section, as Joe also pointed out a bit.

 

i do half of my body on 2 days a week and the other half on another 2 days. For the life of me i don't even feel like i had done anything if i would leave after 20 sets already hehe :)

 

But as we all agreed above already, we all function a bit different. And apparently that is not so much how i function. I seem to be a volume-princess lol

haha yeah, sounds like there was a bit of confusion.

 

Just always keep this in mind @crood. Don't leave the gym if you feel like you need more work. You know your body!

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