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Vect0rs
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Jeremy Either recommened in one of his videos this scale: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3J9G1W/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=jeremyethier-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00F3J9G1W&linkId=f55445f676699f4ae064513b88cba15b&th=1

 

Any thoughts on how good this scale is? And also he recommends weighing yourself everyday and taking average for the week, should I do this? Also those scales which show bodyfat percentage, I've heard they are quite innaccurate, so is it a waste of money to get one that has bodyfat percentage?

Also on an unrelated note, can someone tell me is it necassary to do any lower back specific exercises such as Hyper Extensions and good mornings? I don't really see anyone doing these and they aren't in most programs, why is this, and is good morning dangerous...I literally have never seen anyone at my gym doing it? Keep in mind my goal is mainly muscle gain.

 

Thanks.

johnny2603
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Posted By: Vect0rs

Jeremy Either recommened in one of his videos this scale: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3J9G1W/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=jeremyethier-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00F3J9G1W&linkId=f55445f676699f4ae064513b88cba15b&th=1

 

Any thoughts on how good this scale is? And also he recommends weighing yourself everyday and taking average for the week, should I do this? Also those scales which show bodyfat percentage, I've heard they are quite innaccurate, so is it a waste of money to get one that has bodyfat percentage?

Also on an unrelated note, can someone tell me is it necassary to do any lower back specific exercises such as Hyper Extensions and good mornings? I don't really see anyone doing these and they aren't in most programs, why is this, and is good morning dangerous...I literally have never seen anyone at my gym doing it? Keep in mind my goal is mainly muscle gain.

 

Thanks.

It seems like a basic scale. Most aren't close to 100% accurate but people in the reviews seem to report decent accuracy. I have 2 similar scales I use, both report different numbers each day, and I just keep track of what both say. Your weight fluctuates daily and weight loss or gain is not a linear function. So try to check your weight at the same time each day. For me, that is in the morning before eating, usually after pooping 😁. I record weight each day and check weekly averages. Some days I'll go up 5 pounds, other days I go down a couple, but so far for the past 2 months I've been going up the same amount of weight each week just as I planned with only 1 exception.

 

All scales that measure body fat are inaccurate. The best method at home is to use calipers and the "eyeball" test. Of course your own eyeballs tend to be biased when looking at yourself 😀 that's why I do both.

 

For lower back, deadlifts are great at targeting those muscles. I really only see people specifically training the lower back if they are trying to work on their deadlift. Otherwise, it's not really a show muscle so most people in the gym won't spend a lot of time working on it. If your lower back is weak and a limiting factor for you, it might be worth doing some additional work. Good mornings can be dangerous. For most, the risk to benefit ratio means it's just not worth doing.

Scott_Herman
Scott_Herman a Scott Herman
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Jeremy Either recommened in one of his videos this scale: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3J9G1W/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=jeremyethier-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00F3J9G1W&linkId=f55445f676699f4ae064513b88cba15b&th=1

 

Any thoughts on how good this scale is? And also he recommends weighing yourself everyday and taking average for the week, should I do this? Also those scales which show bodyfat percentage, I've heard they are quite innaccurate, so is it a waste of money to get one that has bodyfat percentage?

Also on an unrelated note, can someone tell me is it necassary to do any lower back specific exercises such as Hyper Extensions and good mornings? I don't really see anyone doing these and they aren't in most programs, why is this, and is good morning dangerous...I literally have never seen anyone at my gym doing it? Keep in mind my goal is mainly muscle gain.

 

Thanks.

Great advice from Johnny! @Vect0rs that scale looks OK, it's just a scale to me, nothing special about it really. If you want to buy it go for it, it doesn't seem to expensive.

 

Honestly I don't think there is any point weighing yourself each day. It can be demotivating because of how much the numbers can change day-to-day. I suggest you weight yourself once a week, in the morning around the same time under the same circumstances if you can (it's best to weight yourself after going to the bathroom if you need to, and without any food or water in you to get an idea of your 'true' weight).

 

Lower back specific exercises are only really needed if your lower back is a weak point for you, but if you're doing deadlifts then chances are it's going to be just fine because even though they're not a lower back specific exercise, the lower back does get some work from deadlifts 😊 

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Hi, I need some advice rather urgently, I only recently noticed that the shoes I use are terrible for squatting. I saw in some video Scott made that you should use weightlifting shoes (elevated heel) for squats, however the trainer at my gym says that that's only for beginners and that I should get some flat shoes (Chuck Taylors) for squatting and deadlifting too. So my question is which shoes do I need, my goal is not to hit a 400 squat or something, I just want to gain muscle. If it is helpful I am 147lb and can do 170lb for reps for parallel squats and about 135lb for deep squats, (I'm looking for the best shoes for squatting deep btw). Thanks.

Scott_Herman
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Hi, I need some advice rather urgently, I only recently noticed that the shoes I use are terrible for squatting. I saw in some video Scott made that you should use weightlifting shoes (elevated heel) for squats, however the trainer at my gym says that that's only for beginners and that I should get some flat shoes (Chuck Taylors) for squatting and deadlifting too. So my question is which shoes do I need, my goal is not to hit a 400 squat or something, I just want to gain muscle. If it is helpful I am 147lb and can do 170lb for reps for parallel squats and about 135lb for deep squats, (I'm looking for the best shoes for squatting deep btw). Thanks.

Well whoever told you that Olympic shoes with a raised heel are only for beginners, doesn't know what they're talking about lol. There are many, MANY advanced lifters who use a raised heel for squatting, and they are literally used in the Olympics by some of the best athletes in the world, so there's no reason you can't use them.

 

HOWEVER, it is good to learn proper form without the help of a raised heel first. So some flat shoes, or just squatting in socks/barefeet is a good place to start for sure. I like to use ASICS wrestling shoes, but Chuck Taylors are a popluar option too. Anything flat, or like I say no shoes at all, are fine.

 

The raised heel is only for squats though - for deadlifts, I definitely suggest you always use a flat sole or no shoes at all so that you are as close to the ground as possible.

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Ok so either one is good then. I will try both and see which shoes feel better when squatting.

 

By the way for weightlifting shoes with a raised heel where do you buy them besides online? Can't seem to find them at normal sports stores.

Scott_Herman
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Ok so either one is good then. I will try both and see which shoes feel better when squatting.

 

By the way for weightlifting shoes with a raised heel where do you buy them besides online? Can't seem to find them at normal sports stores.

I think online is the easiest place to get them to be honest. Just make sure you get the right size! haha.

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Well it is eaiser but it's so hard to find wide width shoes for weightlifting, do you know of any...?

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Hey Scott, in your video 3 sets is killing you gains, where you mention "15-20 sets for large muscle groups", and "10-15 sets for small muscle groups" is that per WORKOUT or per WEEK? Because I assume that meant per week but that wouldn't make sense if for back you have like 3-4 exercises with 4-5 sets and you didn't that twice per week (PPL repeating)?

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Can anyone tell me, of all of these, which ones are GOOD, and which is the BEST?:

 

Nike Metcon: (Not sure, is the heel high enough?)

 

Nike Metcon

 

Nike Romaleos:

 

 

Adidas Adipower:

 

 

Adidas Powerlift 3:

 

 

 

 

 

Scott_Herman
Scott_Herman a Scott Herman
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Hey Scott, in your video 3 sets is killing you gains, where you mention "15-20 sets for large muscle groups", and "10-15 sets for small muscle groups" is that per WORKOUT or per WEEK? Because I assume that meant per week but that wouldn't make sense if for back you have like 3-4 exercises with 4-5 sets and you didn't that twice per week (PPL repeating)?

Per workout. So you would be on the higher end if you're only training everything once a week (20 sets, maybe up to 24 sets for bigger muscle groups), and then on the lower end if you're training everything twice a week (more like 12-16 sets for big muscle groups). I gave the 15-20 sets as an example because it's more of the 'middle ground'.

 

It also depends on how your recovery is and what muscle fibers you're dominant in. For me, I need A LOT of volume in my workouts because I am fast-twitch dominant, so I always go to the higher end of the scale with training everything once a week. For others, that are more slow-twitch dominant, they can even get away with going on the low end of those set numbers when training once a week. It all depends on the individual.

 

And for your shoes, don't go for the first ones. The look nice and they'd be great as regular gym shoes or running shoes, but not squat or deadlift shoes. The Nike Romaleos or either of the Adidas ones would be fine. Keep in mind, a higher price generally means better quality.

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Or I can get the flat chuck taylors since they are not $200, which do you think is better for my case flat or weightlifting shoes with raised heel?

 

Is the heel not tall enough for the first shoes so they wouldn't be good for squats?

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Or I can get the flat chuck taylors since they are not $200, which do you think is better for my case flat or weightlifting shoes with raised heel?

 

Is the heel not tall enough for the first shoes so they wouldn't be good for squats?

Flat shoes are fine. It's up to you really.

 

Yes the heel isn't tall enough, or at least doesn't look tall enough from the photos, in my opinion. Doesn't look like it has a raised heel at all.

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Okay thanks.

 

Btw I don't know if you have seen it but I also posted a question on another thread, it was about is it correct that wether you are doing a T-bar row, Cable Row, Bent over barbell row, or any row really, if you row to your stomach you work your midback, and if you row to around chest level it is working primarialy the upper back?

 

I ask because the chest supported t-bar row has you rowing in front or closer to your chest, so therefor is it correct that chest supported t-bar row is mainly upper back whereas with the landmine t-bar row you can choose wether to emphasize middle or upper back?

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Okay thanks.

 

Btw I don't know if you have seen it but I also posted a question on another thread, it was about is it correct that wether you are doing a T-bar row, Cable Row, Bent over barbell row, or any row really, if you row to your stomach you work your midback, and if you row to around chest level it is working primarialy the upper back?

 

I ask because the chest supported t-bar row has you rowing in front or closer to your chest, so therefor is it correct that chest supported t-bar row is mainly upper back whereas with the landmine t-bar row you can choose wether to emphasize middle or upper back?

Chest supported row is basically a T-Bar row, and you're usually rowing to your chest with that movement anyway (the plates at least). What matters most for what part of your back is activated is your grip. Seen this video? I talk about the differences in how your grip helps you target the upper back or lats here.

 

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Yes, I have seen it, I was referring to how you said that "if you pull the barbell towards your bellybutton you will target more of your lower lats" and how you said that "if you pull the bar more towards your chest you will target more upper lats and mid back". So what I mean is on the chest supported row which looks like this:

 

 

Here you have no choice, you are rowing to your chest which you said targets more upper lats and mid back, with the landmine t-bar row you can row to your belly button or in a bent over row or even cable row, OR you can choose to row to your chest to hit more mid back/upper back.

 

So basically on the Barbell Bent Over Row underhand or overhand grip affects which muscles are worked, but what about this Chest Supported Row, since you can't row to your belly button it should mean this exercise is upper lats/middle back then? Also if you choose neutral grip vs wide grip t-bar row or cable row wide grip/neutral grip which muscles does wide and neutral grip emphasize on these exercises?

 

Thanks for all the help btw :)

 

I will be posting the new program I made very soon.

 

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