Hey guys apparently training over 24 sets is bad but i love training and i feel like i can do more do you think i should do more or leave it around 24 sets
Hey guys apparently training over 24 sets is bad but i love training and i feel like i can do more do you think i should do more or leave it around 24 sets
Well, "training over 24 sets" is very very vauge.
Can you give me an example of a workout with sets, reps, exercises, etc?
Bojan,
Scott is right - that is a very vague statement. I train with well over 24 sets in each of my high volume workouts. These are full body workouts. 24 or more sets for multiple muscle groups is not bad but 24 sets for one muscle group is destructive.
John
And arms do 16 sets biceps and 16 sets triceps
The volume is good but you have too many overlapping movements. Too many sets of flies and pressing for chest, extensions for legs, etc. The key is variety in exercises AND movements to tax and shock the muscles. Do plate presses and DB pullovers in the chest routine. No need to do cables and Dumbbells. Pick one of them and alternate in workouts. Throw in hack squats or overhead leg press instead of single and double leg extensions. Mix up the movement types for shoulders. Volume is only effective when you have variety in movements and change the order of exercises and muscle groups to keep the body from adapting.
John
In all honesty, you really dont even need to do that many exercises. You can limit it to3-4 exercises and get an incredible workout. You cant really put a number on how much you should do because the idea is to efficiently and effectively train that muscle group. Its all about picking a target rep range and out of 4 sets, the last 2 you want to hit failure in that range. Personally, for chest I only do flat press, incline press, and then cable or machine flyes
also, you should think about splitting your legs up throughout the week, hit quads one day, and then hamstrings another. Your leg workout is targeting your quads mainly. Hit extensions, squats, and leg press for your quad day, and then for hamstrings hit leg curls, straight leg deadlifts, etc
Damn I am either not doing enough volume or my sets take a long time to complete, because my leg workout consists of 5 sets of squats, 3 sets of hamstring visio ball curls, 2 sets of deadlifts (starting to get into them now that I know how to do them correctly) and 3 sets of 18 sec pause bulgarian split squats. This workout takes 40-50 minutes with minimal rest. I do the sets back to back for each exercise with about 30 second rests. Then on the next day, I'll do calfs and forearms. My quads are sore the next day and my hamstrings are sorta sore.
will this routine change for chest and legs be good 4 sets each
I agree with HybridPhysiques. You don't need that many exercises.
I would split your chest workout into 2 days, doing 3 of those exercises on one day, rest for 2-3 days and hit the rest of those exercises.
Might want to include some rear delt work on your shoulder day too (face pulls, rear delt raises.)
@jmboiardi, @HybridPhysiques & @ohawkey all gave you some good info to follow and put into practice.
Instead of doing two variations of flat benching, and two variations of incline benching, why not do some flies of some sort or some plate presses? Or what about some good old-fashioned push-ups as a finisher or something? Also, are you still planning to train chest once a week with this set-up, or twice a week?
As for your legs, @HybridPhysiques suggested you split them up into quads and hamstring days etc to ensure you hit each leg muscle group as hard as possible, so why not try that? Otherwise you still only have one exercises specifically geared towards hamstrings.
Jordan
if i can do chest 2 times a week 24 sets each workout heck ye ill do it
Maybe try doing a little less volume than 24 sets for just body part. When you get more advanced in your training you can start adding in more sets as long as you can recover from the workouts.
The easiest way to respond to this I think is to listen to your body. Trial and error has taught me more than anything I've tried to do perfectly from the beginning. The only thing you want to do is avoid pushing it too far to injury. Just because one routine works well for one person doesn't mean that your body is going to react to it the same way. Take advice from everyone you can and try to put your own spin on it. Your one advantage is that you obviously LOVE training which is going to take you further than anything else.
Great response Jeff!
and lots of great responses from everyone here!
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