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kevinkoprol
kevinkoprol g Kevin Boon
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93 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Gain Muscle Date Joined: October 10, 2013
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I never really heard much of the 5x5 method before I joined this site. But after all these good words I read on this forum i tried it with my squat. I loved it! Im trying to fit it into my current routine. Maybe you guys can give your opinion on my plan.

 

My current routine is a push, pull, legs split and my goal is building muscle. But i like to increase my squat and deadlift strength because I think this maybe will boost my leg growth a bit. 

 

My plan is to split my routine into 2 cycles. In the first push pull legs cycle the legs day contains the 5x5 squat, and the pull day no deadlift. And in the second cycle my legs day is more focussed on hypertrophy and my pull day I also train my deadlift strength.

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Scott_Herman
Scott_Herman a Scott Herman
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Posted By: kevinkoprol

I never really heard much of the 5x5 method before I joined this site. But after all these good words I read on this forum i tried it with my squat. I loved it! Im trying to fit it into my current routine. Maybe you guys can give your opinion on my plan.

 

My current routine is a push, pull, legs split and my goal is building muscle. But i like to increase my squat and deadlift strength because I think this maybe will boost my leg growth a bit. 

 

My plan is to split my routine into 2 cycles. In the first push pull legs cycle the legs day contains the 5x5 squat, and the pull day no deadlift. And in the second cycle my legs day is more focussed on hypertrophy and my pull day I also train my deadlift strength.

Hy Kevin,

 

Can you write out all the exercises you will be doing per day so I can better critique to help you maximize your results.

 

and yeah man!  We are here to help!  You know that! :)

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kevinkoprol
kevinkoprol g Kevin Boon
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93 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Gain Muscle Date Joined: October 10, 2013
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Day 1: Push 1
Dumbbell bench press
Incline barbell press
dumbbell flies
Dumbbell shoulders press(Arnold/standard)
Skullcrusher
rope pushdowns 
 
Day 2: Pull 1
Barbell rows (under/overhand)
Pull up(normal/Behind the neck)
Machine(switch it up)
Lateral raises (last 2 sets dropset)
rear delt fly
straight bar curl + hammer curl (Superset)
 
Day 3: Legs 1
Squat (5x5)
Walking lunges
Stifflegged DL
Hamstring curls
Seated calf raises
Calf raises
 
Day 4: push 2
Incline dumbbell press
Decline barbell
Dumbbell fly
Barbell shoulders(militairy,overhead,BHN)
Cable bar pushdown
Rope overhead extensions
 
Day 5: pull 2 
Weighted pull-ups
Cable row
Deadlift (For strength)
Upright row
Superset front side rear raises
Dumbbell curl
Preacher curl machine
 
Day 6: Legs 2
Leg extensions
Legpress
Front squats
Hamstring curls
Seated calf raises
Calf raises
 
Abs 2 or 3 times a week, when I have some energy left. For deadlifting I think i'm sticking with lower reps instead of 5x5 for building strength.
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nate_dawg
nate_dawg g Nathan Bishop
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453 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Bodybuilding Date Joined: December 12, 1969
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Posted By: kevinkoprol
Day 1: Push 1
Dumbbell bench press
Incline barbell press
dumbbell flies
Dumbbell shoulders press(Arnold/standard)
Skullcrusher
rope pushdowns 
 
Day 2: Pull 1
Barbell rows (under/overhand)
Pull up(normal/Behind the neck)
Machine(switch it up)
Lateral raises (last 2 sets dropset)
rear delt fly
straight bar curl + hammer curl (Superset)
 
Day 3: Legs 1
Squat (5x5)
Walking lunges
Stifflegged DL
Hamstring curls
Seated calf raises
Calf raises
 
Day 4: push 2
Incline dumbbell press
Decline barbell
Dumbbell fly
Barbell shoulders(militairy,overhead,BHN)
Cable bar pushdown
Rope overhead extensions
 
Day 5: pull 2 
Weighted pull-ups
Cable row
Deadlift (For strength)
Upright row
Superset front side rear raises
Dumbbell curl
Preacher curl machine
 
Day 6: Legs 2
Leg extensions
Legpress
Front squats
Hamstring curls
Seated calf raises
Calf raises
 
Abs 2 or 3 times a week, when I have some energy left. For deadlifting I think i'm sticking with lower reps instead of 5x5 for building strength.

I really love your split and routines! Its pretty similar to mine in fact! I have done exactly what you are wanting to do! I would start every routine with a 5X5 exercise and then the rest of my exercises in the routine were for hypertrophy. For example one of my chest workouts would be as follows:

 

Flat barbell bench press: 5X5.

Incline dumbbell press: 4 sets of 10-12.

Cable fly's: 4 sets of 10-12.

Dips: 4 sets of 10-15.

incline dumbbell fly's: 4 sets of 10-12.

 

So yes, you can definitely incorporate a 5X5 into your weekly routines! It worked well for me, but right now I am focusing on strictly muscle gain. I am going to start my 5X5's back up really soon though! 

 

Here's a list of exercises I was doing 5X5 with!

 

chest: Either the flat or incline barbell press.

Back: weighted pull-ups or bent barbell rows.

Shoulders: Seated over head barbell press or seated dumbbell press.

Quads: Squats.

Hamstrings/back: Deadlift.

Biceps: barbell curl or seated incline dumbbell curl.

Triceps: Skull crushers or V-bar pushdowns.

kevinkoprol
kevinkoprol g Kevin Boon
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93 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Gain Muscle Date Joined: October 10, 2013
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Thanks man, awesome answer! I think i will use the 5x5 some more, also for training other muscles once in a while. My goal is gaining muscle and gaining strength is not really my priority(a part from squat and deadlift strength for now), but I loved the feel of the 5x5. 

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Gagysha
Gagysha g Dragan Mrdjan
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70 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Gain Muscle Date Joined: November 11, 2013
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Im thing that 5x5 method of training is good for hypertrophy....but my working 5x5 sets is very hard and focused on one of muscle's...I work all 5 sets max with adding weight in each set...

 

example - bench press workout

 

after warm up....

 

1x40 kg max reps

2x50 kg max reps

3x60 kg max reps

4x65 kg max reps

5x70 ks max reps

 

And 2-3 forced repeat on each of them...

 

Im thing that is crazy good workout to put strength and force blod to muscle,as well as hypertrophy... :)

 

This site is great!! Here can ahieve more experience and datebase of excersize than any other forums....in future i going to be one of most actived members of such a great site...and respect good friend Scott,he is done great job here,thanks for that Scott!! Hth!! :)
Braser
Braser g Conner Woods
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54 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Bodybuilding Date Joined: November 11, 2013
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I have a question about the 5x5 method that is probably answered somewhere, but since we're on the topic figured I'd ask.

 

I've always been tought that it's good to progressively overload the weight, meaning you add a little bit more weight each time.

 

For the 5x5 are you guys continually adding weight each set, or are you getting a weight and simply holding it for 5 sets of five reps, and can anyone explain the logic?

 

As for using this for hyperthropy, I think it's more of a power set since it's reletively small volume. Hyperthropy set for me would be more like 5-8 sets of 10-12 reps.

Personal experience.
Markohumm
Markohumm g Mark Hummel
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45 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Bodybuilding Date Joined: October 10, 2013
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Cool thread. I'm doing 5x5's as part of my periodization plan right now. My strength gains are crazy. Example: both my squat and my deadlift increased 20 and 25 pounds respectively in the last two weeks (from one workout to the next one). It's been a consistant increase in strength since I started using 5x5's.

 

Waiting to hear more and learn.

Scott_Herman
Scott_Herman a Scott Herman
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Posted By: Braser

I have a question about the 5x5 method that is probably answered somewhere, but since we're on the topic figured I'd ask.

 

I've always been tought that it's good to progressively overload the weight, meaning you add a little bit more weight each time.

 

For the 5x5 are you guys continually adding weight each set, or are you getting a weight and simply holding it for 5 sets of five reps, and can anyone explain the logic?

 

As for using this for hyperthropy, I think it's more of a power set since it's reletively small volume. Hyperthropy set for me would be more like 5-8 sets of 10-12 reps.

Well you defintiely want to add weight each set if you can. Have a spotter just incase you need them.

 

As for hyprtrophy, yeah more volume is needed for muscle gain.  Staying in the 12-15 rep range with 12-15 "working sets" per muscle group is optimal.  But remember you can even alter that with TEMPO :)

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Scott_Herman
Scott_Herman a Scott Herman
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Posted By: kevinkoprol
Day 1: Push 1
Dumbbell bench press
Incline barbell press
dumbbell flies
Dumbbell shoulders press(Arnold/standard)
Skullcrusher
rope pushdowns 
 
Day 2: Pull 1
Barbell rows (under/overhand)
Pull up(normal/Behind the neck)
Machine(switch it up)
Lateral raises (last 2 sets dropset)
rear delt fly
straight bar curl + hammer curl (Superset)
 
Day 3: Legs 1
Squat (5x5)
Walking lunges
Stifflegged DL
Hamstring curls
Seated calf raises
Calf raises
 
Day 4: push 2
Incline dumbbell press
Decline barbell
Dumbbell fly
Barbell shoulders(militairy,overhead,BHN)
Cable bar pushdown
Rope overhead extensions
 
Day 5: pull 2 
Weighted pull-ups
Cable row
Deadlift (For strength)
Upright row
Superset front side rear raises
Dumbbell curl
Preacher curl machine
 
Day 6: Legs 2
Leg extensions
Legpress
Front squats
Hamstring curls
Seated calf raises
Calf raises
 
Abs 2 or 3 times a week, when I have some energy left. For deadlifting I think i'm sticking with lower reps instead of 5x5 for building strength.

Nathan pretty much nailed this one!  I agree!

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kevinkoprol
kevinkoprol g Kevin Boon
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93 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Gain Muscle Date Joined: October 10, 2013
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Posted By: Scott_Herman

Well you defintiely want to add weight each set if you can. Have a spotter just incase you need them.

 

As for hyprtrophy, yeah more volume is needed for muscle gain.  Staying in the 12-15 rep range with 12-15 "working sets" per muscle group is optimal.  But remember you can even alter that with TEMPO :)

When I am doing 5x5 for squats, I choose a weight that I can do 5x(maybe 6, max 7) and then use this weight 5 sets. The last 2 sets I definitely need a spotter!

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Scott_Herman
Scott_Herman a Scott Herman
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Posted By: kevinkoprol

When I am doing 5x5 for squats, I choose a weight that I can do 5x(maybe 6, max 7) and then use this weight 5 sets. The last 2 sets I definitely need a spotter!

yes exactly, or try to add 5 - 10 pounds with each set if you have a spotter!

 

Looking forward to seeing yoru results brotha!!

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