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ajenkins64
ajenkins64 g Austin Jenkins
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So I've decided to try intermitten fasting as a way to lose fat without losing muscle. It seems to fit in very well with my college schedule. What i'm wondering is if i should keep the macros i have for a regular meal plan or if there should be any changes. I noticed that I was extremely hungry after my workout and i probably overdid the carbs and fat a bit. Also, most intermitten fasting plans have workouts 3 days a week but i would like to do 5-6, because i enjoy it. If anyone has any experience with intermittent fasting or has any advice on macros during it, that would be much appreciated.
For those wondering, my macros are around 50g fat, 150g carb, 230g protein. I try to hit near those numbers but its a bit difficult to get exact with the college cafeteria and dorm life style. Thanks for the help guys!

jmboiardi
jmboiardi p John M Boiardi
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Posted By: ajenkins64

So I've decided to try intermitten fasting as a way to lose fat without losing muscle. It seems to fit in very well with my college schedule. What i'm wondering is if i should keep the macros i have for a regular meal plan or if there should be any changes. I noticed that I was extremely hungry after my workout and i probably overdid the carbs and fat a bit. Also, most intermitten fasting plans have workouts 3 days a week but i would like to do 5-6, because i enjoy it. If anyone has any experience with intermittent fasting or has any advice on macros during it, that would be much appreciated.
For those wondering, my macros are around 50g fat, 150g carb, 230g protein. I try to hit near those numbers but its a bit difficult to get exact with the college cafeteria and dorm life style. Thanks for the help guys!

Austin,

 

I have been doing IF for about 8 months or so now and it has worked phenomenally for me so far. I do the 16:8 protocol - eat in an 8 hour feeding window and fast for 16 hours. The key thing with IF is it is not a diet or a meal plan but rather an eating protocol. You must still eat your total amount of macros and calories from only wholesome, nutritious, non-processed sources. The difference is you are eating them within 8 hours instead of 12 or more like most eating protocols. You don't have to worry about eating every 2 hours or eating many small meals. You just need to eat as many meals as fills your macros and calories for the day. You want to eat your biggest meal after your workouts. So for carbs, eat the majority of your carbs with your post-workout meal. You can train as often as you want with IF just make sure to stick to your meal plan.

 

Some people doing IF train fasted meaning on an empty stomach. They take some tea or coffee and about 3-5grams of BCAAs (Branch Chain Amino Acids) to burn fat while saving muscle. This method is not for everyone as it is quite hard getting used to running on fat but it is the fastest way to burn body fat with IF. I am doing my training with either 1 or 2 meals in me before I train. My breakfast has carbs but my lunch does not (if I eat 2 meals before I work out) and my breakfast has carbs and my post-workout lunch has carbs but my dinner does not (if I eat 1 meal before I workout). IF is awesome and naturally manipulates your insulin and growth hormone levels in your favor. The key is a rock solid nutrition plan - no sugars, junk food, alcohol - and consistent training and rest :-)

 

John

34 years of lifting and nutritional experience and resident "old man" :-) MS Athlete and past Super Hermanite since 2013.
Daniel_Meyer
Daniel_Meyer g Daniel Meyer
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518 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Bodybuilding Date Joined: October 10, 2013
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Posted By: ajenkins64

So I've decided to try intermitten fasting as a way to lose fat without losing muscle. It seems to fit in very well with my college schedule. What i'm wondering is if i should keep the macros i have for a regular meal plan or if there should be any changes. I noticed that I was extremely hungry after my workout and i probably overdid the carbs and fat a bit. Also, most intermitten fasting plans have workouts 3 days a week but i would like to do 5-6, because i enjoy it. If anyone has any experience with intermittent fasting or has any advice on macros during it, that would be much appreciated.
For those wondering, my macros are around 50g fat, 150g carb, 230g protein. I try to hit near those numbers but its a bit difficult to get exact with the college cafeteria and dorm life style. Thanks for the help guys!

Keep us posted on how you find intermittent fasting. I personally do not agree with it as a tool for fat loss but in some cases I've heard good results.

Sport Rehabilitation BSc GSR Sport Rehabilitator and S&C coach at Boston United FC Super Hermanite Twitter: Daniel_Meyer99
ajenkins64
ajenkins64 g Austin Jenkins
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Austin,

 

I have been doing IF for about 8 months or so now and it has worked phenomenally for me so far. I do the 16:8 protocol - eat in an 8 hour feeding window and fast for 16 hours. The key thing with IF is it is not a diet or a meal plan but rather an eating protocol. You must still eat your total amount of macros and calories from only wholesome, nutritious, non-processed sources. The difference is you are eating them within 8 hours instead of 12 or more like most eating protocols. You don't have to worry about eating every 2 hours or eating many small meals. You just need to eat as many meals as fills your macros and calories for the day. You want to eat your biggest meal after your workouts. So for carbs, eat the majority of your carbs with your post-workout meal. You can train as often as you want with IF just make sure to stick to your meal plan.

 

Some people doing IF train fasted meaning on an empty stomach. They take some tea or coffee and about 3-5grams of BCAAs (Branch Chain Amino Acids) to burn fat while saving muscle. This method is not for everyone as it is quite hard getting used to running on fat but it is the fastest way to burn body fat with IF. I am doing my training with either 1 or 2 meals in me before I train. My breakfast has carbs but my lunch does not (if I eat 2 meals before I work out) and my breakfast has carbs and my post-workout lunch has carbs but my dinner does not (if I eat 1 meal before I workout). IF is awesome and naturally manipulates your insulin and growth hormone levels in your favor. The key is a rock solid nutrition plan - no sugars, junk food, alcohol - and consistent training and rest :-)

 

John

Thank you for the tips! this is only the 4th day for me but I can see myself sticking with this for a while.

ajenkins64
ajenkins64 g Austin Jenkins
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Posted By: Daniel_Meyer

Keep us posted on how you find intermittent fasting. I personally do not agree with it as a tool for fat loss but in some cases I've heard good results.

Sure thing. I think the main benefit is scheduling and preference for eating. I have a hard time getting nutritious foods all throughout the day so I think eating more in a smaller window is helpful. I'll keep you posted over the next few weeks.

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I love IF and have been doing it for the last 14 months, I have seen great results while cutting and bulking. For me its great way to control my appetite as I give my self a window in which to consume my cals for the day. I always train fasted, and have tries eating before but it made no difference, for me anyway lol! You will find your own patern :-)

 

Give me a shout if you have any questions, there is alot of great research about IF and some great benefits overall.

 

Smash! :-)

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ajenkins64 g Austin Jenkins
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Just an update for those who care, and a question. I've seen that coffee is a good way to curbe your appetite in the morning and, call me less of a man if you want, I'm not a big fan of coffee without creamer. My question is, will coffee with artificial sugar, 15 calorie creamer with 0 sugar/fat spike insulin? I don't want it if it defeats the purpose of the lifestyle change.


I've done IF for 11 days now and the fast has not been that hard! I feel good because I know that I am doing something different and hopefully I will see results. Obviously 11 days is not enought time to see results but looking forwared to it helps with outlook and intensity when training. The only downside is I have noticed a bit of a difference in how long it takes for me to recover from a workout. I'll probably need to take rest days more often. Thanks for the help guys!

JoeHurricane
JoeHurricane p Jordan Matthews
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Posted By: ajenkins64

Just an update for those who care, and a question. I've seen that coffee is a good way to curbe your appetite in the morning and, call me less of a man if you want, I'm not a big fan of coffee without creamer. My question is, will coffee with artificial sugar, 15 calorie creamer with 0 sugar/fat spike insulin? I don't want it if it defeats the purpose of the lifestyle change.


I've done IF for 11 days now and the fast has not been that hard! I feel good because I know that I am doing something different and hopefully I will see results. Obviously 11 days is not enought time to see results but looking forwared to it helps with outlook and intensity when training. The only downside is I have noticed a bit of a difference in how long it takes for me to recover from a workout. I'll probably need to take rest days more often. Thanks for the help guys!

Hey man.

 

Well, generally I believe it is sugar/carbs which cause insulin spikes, so if your sweetener doesn't have any sugar, it should be OK.

 

However, if this artificial sugar you are talking about has no sugar and no fat but has 15 calories, where are the calories coming from?

 

Also, if you are having a hard time recovering, you could try some CREATINE.

 

Jordan

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jmboiardi
jmboiardi p John M Boiardi
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Posted By: ajenkins64

Just an update for those who care, and a question. I've seen that coffee is a good way to curbe your appetite in the morning and, call me less of a man if you want, I'm not a big fan of coffee without creamer. My question is, will coffee with artificial sugar, 15 calorie creamer with 0 sugar/fat spike insulin? I don't want it if it defeats the purpose of the lifestyle change.


I've done IF for 11 days now and the fast has not been that hard! I feel good because I know that I am doing something different and hopefully I will see results. Obviously 11 days is not enought time to see results but looking forwared to it helps with outlook and intensity when training. The only downside is I have noticed a bit of a difference in how long it takes for me to recover from a workout. I'll probably need to take rest days more often. Thanks for the help guys!

Austin,

 

As long as it has no more than 50 calories, it will not break the fast. Why not try green tea and lemon? Artificial sweetners and creamers are trash. Artificial sweetners actually short circuit the ghrelin-leptin feedback mechanism in your brain. Ghrelin is the hunger hormone and Leptin is the satiety hormone. When you use artificial sweetners, the calories don't register with the brain and cause your leptin levels to stay low and spikes your ghrelin. This is why people still get fat even though they drink diet soda. The brain not only still thinks it is hungry but also ghrelin levels get spiked which increases appetite so you eat more. Most people still eat shit food when drinking diet soda because they think it all evens out since it has no calories. A huge scam and big misconception people have.

 

I am not implying a little artificial sweetner in your coffee will do this to you but why bother putting crap in you when you don't need to? Especially since the protein powders we use already contain artificial sweetners.

 

John

34 years of lifting and nutritional experience and resident "old man" :-) MS Athlete and past Super Hermanite since 2013.
ajenkins64
ajenkins64 g Austin Jenkins
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Thanks for all the advice that everyone has given. This saturday will make 4 weeks of intermitten fasting for me. It's been a great change of pace and feels good to be doing something different. I feel like its working and will share some results after six weeks to evaluate progress. I will continue after that, as i feel it is a good lifestyle. Fasting does help with snacking through the day because you just don't eat. Instead of grabbing a handful here and a handful there, you just don't eat making it easier. The protocol i've started to follow is fasting from 9 at night till 2 in the afternoon. At 2 or later I will drink a protein shake made 29g Protein 8g carb 2g fat, and a scoop of preworkout (NOxplode) and take 2 multiviatmins. I will go workout and come back and most of the time eat a bowl of oatmeal or something else high in carbs. I usually eat dinner after that and just adjust what I eat based on what's being served and what estimates to my macros. Lastly I drink a protein shake somewhere around 8-9. If anyone has anymore ideas they try or something else I didn't cover, it would be greatly appreciated! thanks!

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arthur333 g Arthur Andrews
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Posted By: jmboiardi

Austin,

 

I have been doing IF for about 8 months or so now and it has worked phenomenally for me so far. I do the 16:8 protocol - eat in an 8 hour feeding window and fast for 16 hours. The key thing with IF is it is not a diet or a meal plan but rather an eating protocol. You must still eat your total amount of macros and calories from only wholesome, nutritious, non-processed sources. The difference is you are eating them within 8 hours instead of 12 or more like most eating protocols. You don't have to worry about eating every 2 hours or eating many small meals. You just need to eat as many meals as fills your macros and calories for the day. You want to eat your biggest meal after your workouts. So for carbs, eat the majority of your carbs with your post-workout meal. You can train as often as you want with IF just make sure to stick to your meal plan.

 

Some people doing IF train fasted meaning on an empty stomach. They take some tea or coffee and about 3-5grams of BCAAs (Branch Chain Amino Acids) to burn fat while saving muscle. This method is not for everyone as it is quite hard getting used to running on fat but it is the fastest way to burn body fat with IF. I am doing my training with either 1 or 2 meals in me before I train. My breakfast has carbs but my lunch does not (if I eat 2 meals before I work out) and my breakfast has carbs and my post-workout lunch has carbs but my dinner does not (if I eat 1 meal before I workout). IF is awesome and naturally manipulates your insulin and growth hormone levels in your favor. The key is a rock solid nutrition plan - no sugars, junk food, alcohol - and consistent training and rest :-)

 

John

Thanks for the post. I'm wondering how IF would work for me and this answers a few questions.

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