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Hello everyone,

I've been crushing PPL the past 4 weeks and I did my 4th Pull workout yesterday. Since starting PPL I have become more comfortable with deadlifts and making sure my form is spot on.

However, I have noticed that when I reach the last few exercises, my grip strength begins to fail. For example, when doing dumbbell shrugs it takes a lot of effort just to hold the dumbbells - not because of muscle fatigue in the targeted exercise area. I just feel like my fingers have a hard time holding on to the dumbbell.

Is this normal? Would wearing some weightlifting gloves help towards the end of my workout to keep my grip on the weights?

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nyyanks937 g Yevgeniy Kruchenetskiy
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Posted By: STEMJeff

Hello everyone,

I've been crushing PPL the past 4 weeks and I did my 4th Pull workout yesterday. Since starting PPL I have become more comfortable with deadlifts and making sure my form is spot on.

However, I have noticed that when I reach the last few exercises, my grip strength begins to fail. For example, when doing dumbbell shrugs it takes a lot of effort just to hold the dumbbells - not because of muscle fatigue in the targeted exercise area. I just feel like my fingers have a hard time holding on to the dumbbell.

Is this normal? Would wearing some weightlifting gloves help towards the end of my workout to keep my grip on the weights?

It's normal...I had the same issue. You will develop grip strength over time. Gloves have no effect on grip strength, instead you need a pair of wrist straps (I included a link to an example below). You can find some youtube videos on how to wear them properly. They're easy to use after just a bit of practice and they definitely help. However, be sure to only use them when you absolutely need them...in situations when your grip is giving out and not allowing you to effectively do an exercise. Don't overuse them or you won't develop your own grip strength.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Lifting-Wrist-Straps-Rip-Toned/dp/B00COY99U2/ref=ice_ac_b_dpb?ie=UTF8&qid=1516829789&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=lifting+wrist+straps&psc=1

jmboiardi
jmboiardi p John M Boiardi
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Posted By: STEMJeff

Hello everyone,

I've been crushing PPL the past 4 weeks and I did my 4th Pull workout yesterday. Since starting PPL I have become more comfortable with deadlifts and making sure my form is spot on.

However, I have noticed that when I reach the last few exercises, my grip strength begins to fail. For example, when doing dumbbell shrugs it takes a lot of effort just to hold the dumbbells - not because of muscle fatigue in the targeted exercise area. I just feel like my fingers have a hard time holding on to the dumbbell.

Is this normal? Would wearing some weightlifting gloves help towards the end of my workout to keep my grip on the weights?

This is normal. Your forearms are like any other muscle - they learn to adapt to the stresses placed on them over time. As you are new to weightlifiting and doing grip intensive movements like deadlifts, you will need to push thru so that your grip can get stronger.

 

Gloves are useless and I personally never recommend them. Your hands develop caluses over time to protect the areas of skin on your palm that bear the most friction when gripping barbells and dumbells. Gloves prevent this from happening. They also have no effect on grip strength.

 

John

34 years of lifting and nutritional experience and resident "old man" :-) MS Athlete and past Super Hermanite since 2013.
Scott_Herman
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Posted By: STEMJeff

Hello everyone,

I've been crushing PPL the past 4 weeks and I did my 4th Pull workout yesterday. Since starting PPL I have become more comfortable with deadlifts and making sure my form is spot on.

However, I have noticed that when I reach the last few exercises, my grip strength begins to fail. For example, when doing dumbbell shrugs it takes a lot of effort just to hold the dumbbells - not because of muscle fatigue in the targeted exercise area. I just feel like my fingers have a hard time holding on to the dumbbell.

Is this normal? Would wearing some weightlifting gloves help towards the end of my workout to keep my grip on the weights?

You already have the answers you need, but yeah it's normal. No need to get gloves, just keep training and your grip strength will improve, plus I'll link you a video below that might help.

 

The other thing you can do is start using a monkey grip if you REALLY need to at the end of the workout this is where you hook your thumb under the bar or dumbbell instead of over - this will mean your forearms aren't working as hard and won't fatigue as fast. I wouldn't do it all the time, but if you have to do that every now and then or get wrist straps to make sure your breakding down the muscle your targeting without your forearms stopping you, that's OK.

 

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Fenrir_Unchained
Fenrir_Unchained g David Levi
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Posted By: Scott_Herman

You already have the answers you need, but yeah it's normal. No need to get gloves, just keep training and your grip strength will improve, plus I'll link you a video below that might help.

 

The other thing you can do is start using a monkey grip if you REALLY need to at the end of the workout this is where you hook your thumb under the bar or dumbbell instead of over - this will mean your forearms aren't working as hard and won't fatigue as fast. I wouldn't do it all the time, but if you have to do that every now and then or get wrist straps to make sure your breakding down the muscle your targeting without your forearms stopping you, that's OK.

 

I wanted to ask you about this, actually. After watching the video you had mentioned using 'thick bars'. I have to admit I'm the type to research something pretty extensively before I spend time / resources on it and I found a few, but not many, studies regarding this upsurgence of thick bar training. One of said statements presented the fact that by enlarging the smaller support muscles it could stunt the overall growth of strength or at least limit efficiency in the lift for the larger muscles in the lift.

Personally I'm basically skin and bones as it is, so I'm concerned about the potential limitations this might cause if it is grounded in any kind of truth.

Opinions?

Aron_Buzzell
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Hey man!

 

The statement you're talking about would only be true if you trained the support muscles more frequently than you did the primary movers. For example the Bench Press:

 

If you hit triceps 3-4x/wk but only hit Chest 1-2x/wk = yes, your tricep (the support muscle) would likely overpower your chest not allowing it to grow. But I would assume this would have to be to an extreme.

 

Training your grip strength for the time being will have no long term effects in the order of muscle recruitment your body utilizes.

Scott_Herman
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Posted By: Fenrir_Unchained

I wanted to ask you about this, actually. After watching the video you had mentioned using 'thick bars'. I have to admit I'm the type to research something pretty extensively before I spend time / resources on it and I found a few, but not many, studies regarding this upsurgence of thick bar training. One of said statements presented the fact that by enlarging the smaller support muscles it could stunt the overall growth of strength or at least limit efficiency in the lift for the larger muscles in the lift.

Personally I'm basically skin and bones as it is, so I'm concerned about the potential limitations this might cause if it is grounded in any kind of truth.

Opinions?

No need to worry about it man. I have done a lot of training with fat grips and it hasn’t affected my ability to grow size.

 

Because you have to grip so much harder and activate more stabiliser muscles, yes it will mean you can’t lift as heavy. However, the idea isn’t to always lift with grips, just occasionally and you don’t have to do it on your compound lifts.

 

This way you can focus on increasing grip strength, size & strength 😊 

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Fenrir_Unchained
Fenrir_Unchained g David Levi
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Posted By: Scott_Herman

No need to worry about it man. I have done a lot of training with fat grips and it hasn’t affected my ability to grow size.

 

Because you have to grip so much harder and activate more stabiliser muscles, yes it will mean you can’t lift as heavy. However, the idea isn’t to always lift with grips, just occasionally and you don’t have to do it on your compound lifts.

 

This way you can focus on increasing grip strength, size & strength 😊 

Alright, awesome. I just wanted to confirm, because frankly I have rustic old barbells and dumbbells, the really thin types to boot and they dig into my hands something awful because as mentioned I have like single digit bodyfat %... Not pleasant feeling metal on bone grinding lol

 

Scott_Herman
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Posted By: Fenrir_Unchained

Alright, awesome. I just wanted to confirm, because frankly I have rustic old barbells and dumbbells, the really thin types to boot and they dig into my hands something awful because as mentioned I have like single digit bodyfat %... Not pleasant feeling metal on bone grinding lol

 

@Fenrir_Unchained having thinner bars isn't a bad thing either, because you might actually be able to lift MORE weight because you're not having to work as hard just to grip the bar.

 

But your hands will get used to it, and yeah like I say, you can still build size if you do decide to use fat gripz 🙌 

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