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Okinawa82
Okinawa82 g Kevin Dunaway
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NOt sure how I wanted to title this to get the best answers. I have been increasing macros weekly until I start seeing the scale go up. As I have been increasing in weight about 1lb per week I have noticed my belly always looks full. I can still flex and see my sick pack, but damn near looks like a pregnant belly at 3months lol. Not really, but really!  Also I have a cancun trip planned for september 5-12 and i don't want to interfere with my gains, but I want to make sure my abs look tip top shape as much as they can around this time as I will be shirtless. Any tips on what the bloating may be from? Also any tips on how to keep gains and maintain a less bloated midsection during this week? 

NutritionMax
NutritionMax g Justin Janoska
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Likely just from increasing carb amounts... which means more water is retained. It will balance out usually as you adapt, but if not, cut the carbs down.

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jmboiardi
jmboiardi p John M Boiardi
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Posted By: Okinawa82

NOt sure how I wanted to title this to get the best answers. I have been increasing macros weekly until I start seeing the scale go up. As I have been increasing in weight about 1lb per week I have noticed my belly always looks full. I can still flex and see my sick pack, but damn near looks like a pregnant belly at 3months lol. Not really, but really!  Also I have a cancun trip planned for september 5-12 and i don't want to interfere with my gains, but I want to make sure my abs look tip top shape as much as they can around this time as I will be shirtless. Any tips on what the bloating may be from? Also any tips on how to keep gains and maintain a less bloated midsection during this week? 

Well geeez Kevin stop taking the Growth Hormone injections :-P J/K

 

As Justin (NutritionMax) mentioned, increased carbs as well as fiber will take a while for your gut biodome (bacteria) to adjust. They help break down many of the nutrients in our foods and carbohydrates increase the amount of starch being processed which produces more gas and bloating on top of more water in the intestinal tract. It should settle down in a couple of weeks. If not, you may have slight allergies to the types of carbs you are eating so you may need to change them up.

 

John

34 years of lifting and nutritional experience and resident "old man" :-) MS Athlete and past Super Hermanite since 2013.
Abaas
Abaas g ahmed abas
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Posted By: Okinawa82

NOt sure how I wanted to title this to get the best answers. I have been increasing macros weekly until I start seeing the scale go up. As I have been increasing in weight about 1lb per week I have noticed my belly always looks full. I can still flex and see my sick pack, but damn near looks like a pregnant belly at 3months lol. Not really, but really!  Also I have a cancun trip planned for september 5-12 and i don't want to interfere with my gains, but I want to make sure my abs look tip top shape as much as they can around this time as I will be shirtless. Any tips on what the bloating may be from? Also any tips on how to keep gains and maintain a less bloated midsection during this week? 

As John said its not only about amount of carb but also the type and source of carb for example i always have bloating from oat even with samall amount so rely on sweet potato and little brown rice for my carb

Okinawa82
Okinawa82 g Kevin Dunaway
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Well geeez Kevin stop taking the Growth Hormone injections :-P J/K

 

As Justin (NutritionMax) mentioned, increased carbs as well as fiber will take a while for your gut biodome (bacteria) to adjust. They help break down many of the nutrients in our foods and carbohydrates increase the amount of starch being processed which produces more gas and bloating on top of more water in the intestinal tract. It should settle down in a couple of weeks. If not, you may have slight allergies to the types of carbs you are eating so you may need to change them up.

 

John

Got to get big quick somehow @jmboiardi & abass lol joking! I have been eating a good amount of carbs since I was sick over a month ago, so I would think my body would have adjusted by now. Is there a way to get a test that is accurate to determine allergies? I know there are labs that have you spit in a cup, but I am just not sure if its really legit. I cut out the bread completely and get this bloated, most of the carbs I consume are quinoa, brown rice, sweet potato. Only after a working do i usually consume a little bit of white rice, banana, or couscous. After my workouts I am usually okay, but most of the day I appear bloated, not just after a meal. I can wake up in the morning and still see it.

 

I was thinking of starting scotts vacuum exercise hoping it would keep my stomach tight and bring it in a bit. To give you an example of what I had today so far is :

Breakfast: 6 whole eggs, 1/2 cup of brown rice and a banana

Snack: two 5 oz chicken breast

Lunch: Shrimp, quinoa, tomato and hot sauce

 

I have a friend (who is a trainer) that chooses to go lower carbs (100g) a day and consume mostly fats and protein. What is your intake on this? Hes getting roughly in percentages 5% carbs, fat 75% and protein 20%. and hes in the range of 4500 calories a day.

jmboiardi
jmboiardi p John M Boiardi
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Got to get big quick somehow @jmboiardi & abass lol joking! I have been eating a good amount of carbs since I was sick over a month ago, so I would think my body would have adjusted by now. Is there a way to get a test that is accurate to determine allergies? I know there are labs that have you spit in a cup, but I am just not sure if its really legit. I cut out the bread completely and get this bloated, most of the carbs I consume are quinoa, brown rice, sweet potato. Only after a working do i usually consume a little bit of white rice, banana, or couscous. After my workouts I am usually okay, but most of the day I appear bloated, not just after a meal. I can wake up in the morning and still see it.

 

I was thinking of starting scotts vacuum exercise hoping it would keep my stomach tight and bring it in a bit. To give you an example of what I had today so far is :

Breakfast: 6 whole eggs, 1/2 cup of brown rice and a banana

Snack: two 5 oz chicken breast

Lunch: Shrimp, quinoa, tomato and hot sauce

 

I have a friend (who is a trainer) that chooses to go lower carbs (100g) a day and consume mostly fats and protein. What is your intake on this? Hes getting roughly in percentages 5% carbs, fat 75% and protein 20%. and hes in the range of 4500 calories a day.

Kevin,

 

Not sure on the food allergy testing stuff. Sometimes the allergies are subtle but with the right mix of food can cause issues. If you were sick for a while, there might have been some changes to your internal biodome. It can take quite a while for this balance to return back to normal especially if you had to use antibiotics.

 

As for carbs, I do eat more protein and fats than carbs but I try stay between 100g and 160g (my body weight) in carbs. As I am more interested in stayin very lean, I find that I need to control my carb intake. I eat the exact same types of carbs as you. Occassionally I do a massive re-feed day where I eat 200+g of carbs. My body usually lets me know when it wants one :-)

 

John

34 years of lifting and nutritional experience and resident "old man" :-) MS Athlete and past Super Hermanite since 2013.
NutritionMax
NutritionMax g Justin Janoska
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Posted By: Okinawa82

Got to get big quick somehow @jmboiardi & abass lol joking! I have been eating a good amount of carbs since I was sick over a month ago, so I would think my body would have adjusted by now. Is there a way to get a test that is accurate to determine allergies? I know there are labs that have you spit in a cup, but I am just not sure if its really legit. I cut out the bread completely and get this bloated, most of the carbs I consume are quinoa, brown rice, sweet potato. Only after a working do i usually consume a little bit of white rice, banana, or couscous. After my workouts I am usually okay, but most of the day I appear bloated, not just after a meal. I can wake up in the morning and still see it.

 

I was thinking of starting scotts vacuum exercise hoping it would keep my stomach tight and bring it in a bit. To give you an example of what I had today so far is :

Breakfast: 6 whole eggs, 1/2 cup of brown rice and a banana

Snack: two 5 oz chicken breast

Lunch: Shrimp, quinoa, tomato and hot sauce

 

I have a friend (who is a trainer) that chooses to go lower carbs (100g) a day and consume mostly fats and protein. What is your intake on this? Hes getting roughly in percentages 5% carbs, fat 75% and protein 20%. and hes in the range of 4500 calories a day.

If it was an allergy you would know immediately. Likely a food sensitivity to something...

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Like Nutritionmax already said, allergies you'd be noticing directly (skin reactions etc, feeling ill, energy depleted).

 

Food intolerances are more likely but also harder to detect. F.i. lactose intolerance has to be tested by seeing how much of a lactose you actually still breathe out half an hour of eating a lactose product (i.e. milk). Other's can't be tested at all.

In most cases of food intolerance a (serious) nutritionist will give you a chart and let you write down what you ate and how you felt and keep track of this over month and month. Then would start to remove cvertain things you ate when feeling bad, and try to nail it down to the problem source.

 

But to be fair, it's an intolerance in the least of all cases.

 

It's more likely that you eat something that just generally has a tendency to bloat: Broccoli, Bread, rolled oats, beans, lentils, even too much dairy products can bloat you a lot.

 

If you eat weightgainers or anything like that, those can be the reason as well.

 

Just "carbs" in general don't bloat you much. As even fruits are carbs and don't really bloat your belly (aside from too many apples :P)

 

but yeah it might be one or the other. So you'll have to pay a bit attention to it. To find which of the things you eat has this result on you.

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jmboiardi
jmboiardi p John M Boiardi
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Posted By: crood

Like Nutritionmax already said, allergies you'd be noticing directly (skin reactions etc, feeling ill, energy depleted).

 

Food intolerances are more likely but also harder to detect. F.i. lactose intolerance has to be tested by seeing how much of a lactose you actually still breathe out half an hour of eating a lactose product (i.e. milk). Other's can't be tested at all.

In most cases of food intolerance a (serious) nutritionist will give you a chart and let you write down what you ate and how you felt and keep track of this over month and month. Then would start to remove cvertain things you ate when feeling bad, and try to nail it down to the problem source.

 

But to be fair, it's an intolerance in the least of all cases.

 

It's more likely that you eat something that just generally has a tendency to bloat: Broccoli, Bread, rolled oats, beans, lentils, even too much dairy products can bloat you a lot.

 

If you eat weightgainers or anything like that, those can be the reason as well.

 

Just "carbs" in general don't bloat you much. As even fruits are carbs and don't really bloat your belly (aside from too many apples :P)

 

but yeah it might be one or the other. So you'll have to pay a bit attention to it. To find which of the things you eat has this result on you.

Nah.....none of this. We already told Kevin to get off the growth hormone :-P

 

John

34 years of lifting and nutritional experience and resident "old man" :-) MS Athlete and past Super Hermanite since 2013.
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Like Nutritionmax already said, allergies you'd be noticing directly (skin reactions etc, feeling ill, energy depleted).

 

Food intolerances are more likely but also harder to detect. F.i. lactose intolerance has to be tested by seeing how much of a lactose you actually still breathe out half an hour of eating a lactose product (i.e. milk). Other's can't be tested at all.

In most cases of food intolerance a (serious) nutritionist will give you a chart and let you write down what you ate and how you felt and keep track of this over month and month. Then would start to remove cvertain things you ate when feeling bad, and try to nail it down to the problem source.

 

But to be fair, it's an intolerance in the least of all cases.

 

It's more likely that you eat something that just generally has a tendency to bloat: Broccoli, Bread, rolled oats, beans, lentils, even too much dairy products can bloat you a lot.

 

If you eat weightgainers or anything like that, those can be the reason as well.

 

Just "carbs" in general don't bloat you much. As even fruits are carbs and don't really bloat your belly (aside from too many apples :P)

 

but yeah it might be one or the other. So you'll have to pay a bit attention to it. To find which of the things you eat has this result on you.

"It's more likely that you eat something that just generally has a tendency to bloat: Broccoli, Bread, rolled oats, beans, lentils, even too much dairy products can bloat you a lot" ... and apples...

This is interesting, I eat all of these apart from bread and lentils...didn't know they could be potential foods that cause bloating, you sure do know you're stuff @Crood!

Waiting for asparagus season though instead of/as well as broccoli! :D

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"It's more likely that you eat something that just generally has a tendency to bloat: Broccoli, Bread, rolled oats, beans, lentils, even too much dairy products can bloat you a lot" ... and apples...

This is interesting, I eat all of these apart from bread and lentils...didn't know they could be potential foods that cause bloating, you sure do know you're stuff @Crood!

Waiting for asparagus season though instead of/as well as broccoli! :D

Jordan

@JoeHurricane yeah they do lol. Especially all "leguminous plants" are known for this. I am sure you guys over there also have a saying or expression that includes farts in combination with beans XD (lentils and every other legume pretty much have the same potential. And breads often due to their yeast content, and because of the grains etc).

Like we say here: "Jedes Böhnchen, gibt ein Tönchen" (meaning : "Every bean [you ate] will give out a sound [fart]" lol)

 

Even animals are affected, there are studies about how to prevent bloating for legume fed animals, especially cattle. With their huge stomachs and doublestomach setting, extreme blaoting and gas formation can even cause death. (http://www2.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/id/id186/id186.pdf )

 

In regards to you seeming to be little impacted by it, there are several factors.. how good your bowel movements are (to release "gas" that way - aka: fart), or if you are capable of just belching it out, as well as the general flora in your stomach and bowels (what kind of bacterial environment you have there). =)

 

I personally had to lower broccoli as iot seems the worst for me in that regard lol.

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Nah.....none of this. We already told Kevin to get off the growth hormone :-P

 

John

@jmboiardi LOL !!! =D

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Okinawa82
Okinawa82 g Kevin Dunaway
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Thank you for all the responses! @jmboiardi is such a comedian haha.

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Thank you for all the responses! @jmboiardi is such a comedian haha.

he is, indeed lol =) But in a good way !

Glad we all could help you!

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