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Heres a picture of my meals for the day which I split into 4 meals. This is suppossed to add up to 144 grams of carbs, 236 grams of protein and 65 grams of fat total for each day and each meal was split up into 36 grams of carbs, 60 grams of protein and 16 grams of fat per meal which is shown in the photo. Does this look accurate to you guys cause it seems in my view that the porition is very small and looks like a deficit. What do you guys think? Does this look accurate at all. Keep in mind that this adds up total 2,154 calories. Theres no fat at all in the dishes and maybe that is why it looks like a deficit but I am not sure what I should add for fat in my meals so I usually eat 2 banannas a day or an apple.

@italianlifter I think your carbs might be on the right track, but your protein and fats may not be at the numbers you think they are judging by these meals, in my opinion. It's hard to tell from a photo though.

 

Looks like you have some brown rice there, and 1/4 cup uncooked (1/2 cup cooked) is generally about 36g carbs, so if you have 1/2 cup of cooked rice in each container, that should be basically spot on.

 

Now your protein, there is a good amount of chicken in each container, but 60g worth of protein comes from about 250-300g chicken. If that is how much you have in each container, then again, you should be fine with your protein, especially taking into account that each serving of rice is probably giving you approx. 3-4g protein.

 

But if you just have chicken and rice in each container, you probably don't have your 65g fat. You get about 2g fat from 100g chicken, so 250-300g chicken = 4-6g fat, and over 4 meals that is 16-24g fat. Add in maybe 1-2g fat per serving of rice and your get up around maybe 35g fat, so still a fair way off your overall fat goal.

 

Why not try cooking your rice and/or chicken in some extra virgin olive oil and/or coconut oil for those good saturated fats? Pretty simple to do and you don't need a lot of oil, a tablespoon is about 9g fat for both. Add one tablespoon to each meal and you basically have your 65g fat overall.

 

Does that all make sense?

 

Also, one last thing - is this all you eat for the entire day? Chicken and rice? Bananas and apples are great additions, and it probably wouldn't hurt to get some more fibrous vegetables in there either - things like broccoli, spinach, asparagus, some beans, they're all good.

 

Don't forget you have other protein sources too like eggs and greek yoghurt, as well as things like oily fish or peanut butter for fats. However, I suppose if this is working for you it's all good. Just make sure you are getting all your micronutrients too though (e.g your vitamins and minerals etc.)

 

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Heres a picture of my meals for the day which I split into 4 meals. This is suppossed to add up to 144 grams of carbs, 236 grams of protein and 65 grams of fat total for each day and each meal was split up into 36 grams of carbs, 60 grams of protein and 16 grams of fat per meal which is shown in the photo. Does this look accurate to you guys cause it seems in my view that the porition is very small and looks like a deficit. What do you guys think? Does this look accurate at all. Keep in mind that this adds up total 2,154 calories. Theres no fat at all in the dishes and maybe that is why it looks like a deficit but I am not sure what I should add for fat in my meals so I usually eat 2 banannas a day or an apple.

Matthew,

 

One large chicken breast is about 1Lb (or .5Kg). That would mean each side of the breast is 8 ounces. 8 ounces x 7g protein per ounce = 56g of protein. I have been eating chicken for over 30 years as part of my nutrition plan. 8 ounces of chicken looks like 2 of those containers together not one. Once cup of cooked rice looks like 3 of those containers together not one. So I would say you have 2 Lb of chicken total (or 1 Kg) and 1.5 cups of cooked rice total by the pictures you posted. 16 ounces of chicken x 7 grams per ounce = 112 g of protein. 1 cup of cooked rice is about 50 grams of carbs. 1.5 cups is 75 grams of carbs.

 

You need to combine all 4 containers of chicken and rice and then add more chicken and rice to get near the macro numbers you are expecting in my view :-)

 

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I'm looking at the picture and the portions look small for the macros you are quoting but who knows? Here is one of my food log entries from this week that is close to the macros you are trying to hit. Vary your carb and protein sources and your diet will be much more enjoyable and easier to stick to. I limit myself to two chicken breasts per day.

 

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Hey guys,

  Thanks for all the replies and I will explain how I divided this up or better yet how I counted it.

According to my chicken breast label it says serving size: 4 oz (110 g) so I had my scale and measured out 4 ounces of chicken and then put that all into each trey as shown in my pictures. Each one has 4 ounces of chicken and according to that it would be total fat: 2.5 g, carbs 0g, and proten 23 g. My rice said 1/4 cup dry (45 g) which I measure after cooked with a 1/4 cup and the info was 36 grams carbs, 3 grams protein and 0 grams fat. I calculated this all into 4 meals which if did right would be 68 grams protein and 36 grams carbs each meal and that added up to 4 meals and I know I was missing my fat intake so I have to figure that out but this is ow I did it and I am not saying it was correct at all. Just explaing it to you guys so you can better correct me.

So if you only have 4oz of chicken in each container, that is only 23g of protein. Add the 3g from your rice and that's 26g protein TOTAL per meal.

 

So you need to at least double the amount of chicken you have in each container, like @jmboiardi suggested when he mentioned two of those containers looked like 8oz.

 

You rice looks good, increase the amount of chicken per serving, and add some oil or avocado or something, and you should hit your macros in no time :)

 

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Hey guys,

  Thanks for all the replies and I will explain how I divided this up or better yet how I counted it.

According to my chicken breast label it says serving size: 4 oz (110 g) so I had my scale and measured out 4 ounces of chicken and then put that all into each trey as shown in my pictures. Each one has 4 ounces of chicken and according to that it would be total fat: 2.5 g, carbs 0g, and proten 23 g. My rice said 1/4 cup dry (45 g) which I measure after cooked with a 1/4 cup and the info was 36 grams carbs, 3 grams protein and 0 grams fat. I calculated this all into 4 meals which if did right would be 68 grams protein and 36 grams carbs each meal and that added up to 4 meals and I know I was missing my fat intake so I have to figure that out but this is ow I did it and I am not saying it was correct at all. Just explaing it to you guys so you can better correct me.

As a rule of thumb, rice almost triples in weight once cooked. When I cook 45g (measured dry) it results in 125g of cooked rice. Also, like Joe said, adding oils to rice can take it from boring to awesome. A personal favorite of mine is macadamia oil on my basmati rice.

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As you can see I do not look 9.7% body fat at all and I certainly do not feel like it. I am not sure where I want to take my steps now with working out. Not sure if I should use little weight training and more HIIT training or cardio training. Not rerally sure but me personally is my issue with stored fat on the hip area on the lower side of the stomacvh and my upper arms under shoulder blade where you can see the line slightly and my upper tricep. My lower part of the arm as you can see is well toned. Just bothering me the way I look right now and I hiope that does not sound selfish at all. Not sure if I have a six pack going or 4 pack cause my lower abs wont really develop. Its mostly my abs right below the rib cage and so on.

 

Anyways hope for replies. Thanks guys in advance. Truly are great guys and true motivation!

 

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Hey there brotha,

 

@jmboiardi @JoeHurricane @CDNrower just covered you well with regards to the adjustment of your meals. For sure it will help you a lot.

 

Most stored fat can be seen on the hip area or around the stomach. If you want to get rid of them HIIT or cardio training is the best way. As I looked at your pictures, you are getting toned..right track for LEAN gain. You should be inetense and heavy in your weight training in my opinion to maximize your muscle growth. Your abdominal looks like 6 pack to me. As you get leaner your lower abs will be visible.

So what you should do? I'm not so professional with this but let the other MS athlete gave you a better advice

 

1. Follow the advice of John, Joe and CNDrower with regards to meal plan. To get lean , your diet should be high protein, fat and low carbs ( you can play with the amount of your carbs during training and rest day).

2. Be intense and do heavy wieght training. Do 3-4 set of 10-12 reps for more muscle definiton and growth.

3. Do HIIT or cardio 2-3 times a week to get rid of the fat in the said area (for 15-20 minutes, I think).

4. Have a good number of hours when it comes to rest. REPEAT.

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As you can see I do not look 9.7% body fat at all and I certainly do not feel like it. I am not sure where I want to take my steps now with working out. Not sure if I should use little weight training and more HIIT training or cardio training. Not rerally sure but me personally is my issue with stored fat on the hip area on the lower side of the stomacvh and my upper arms under shoulder blade where you can see the line slightly and my upper tricep. My lower part of the arm as you can see is well toned. Just bothering me the way I look right now and I hiope that does not sound selfish at all. Not sure if I have a six pack going or 4 pack cause my lower abs wont really develop. Its mostly my abs right below the rib cage and so on.

 

Anyways hope for replies. Thanks guys in advance. Truly are great guys and true motivation!

 

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While you might not be 9.7% body fat, you are looking relatively lean. My guesstimate would be anywhere between 10-14%.

 

The upper arms and lower abs tend to be fat storage areas for men. Training them will tighten those areas, and cardio and a clean meal plan will lead to fat loss. BUt you can't tell your body where it loses fat from. So you will just have to be pateint until your body decides to start losing fat from those areas. Shouldn't be too long given your current fat levels, but could equally take some time because your body fat levels are low which makes fat loss harder to come by.

 

Now your stomach, that could be a case of posture. Make sure when you stand you are keeping your shoulders in line, not slouched forward, keep your chest up and keep your core tight. It can be amazing how differently you look just from changing your posture a bit. I'm not saying your posture looks bad though.

 

Also for your stomach maybe try doing some stomach vacuums, that can help you control your core and create a slimmer waistline.

Aaaaannnndddd I just wonder if you want to change your meal plan a bit. Those four meals you eat...is that all the food you eat during the day? You need to be getting those micronutrients in to make sure your macros are being properly absorbed. Your macros themselves look OK, and you have low carbs which will be good for fat loss.

 

Have you thought about doing Intermittent Fasting too?

 

And don't worry about feeling selfish man! You have goals which you want to reach, just like all of us, and you want to do all you can to reach them. And we want to do what we can to help you! I'm glad I can help motivate you!

 

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Yeah man I dont look 9.7 percent body fat in my eyes either and I am not sure if its true that I may be 9.7 percent and just really bad with the muscle mass or whatever, I really dont know but I can agree with you that I may be within the 10-14 percent range.

 

I personally think it will take a lot longer for me cause my triceps and arms are certainly getting stonger but not getting tighter at all. Its still flabby and jiggly when I shake my arms.

 

My stomach did look a little better this morning and less bloating so maybe it was just the case of yesterday, I really do not know but I will check out that stomach vacuum video and if it looks like it may help I will add it into my workouts for sure and give it a go.

 

I do want to change my meal plan every so often but only if its easy to make and easy to count and do if that makes sense. I wouldn't say I am the best cooker in the world lol. I currently have lots of rice, Chicken breast, Olive oil and 8 avocados. I also have cheerios cereal.

 

No i have never thought about the intermittent fasting cause I am afarid if I lose weight or fat so quick that it may become loosem skin and that would be even worse for me. Wirth my arms as well I am unsure if it is loose skin or fat but most likely fat. It could be loose skin cause a while back all I did was lots of cardio on the machines with HIIT and running home with less weight training. What is intermittent fasting and would it be wise for me to give it a go and how should I do this?

I still think you will find there isn't actually lots of fat on your arms :)

 

Just for reference, watch Scott's arm here as he does Wide grip curls...his triceps jiggle a bit, but do you think it is because they are fat? No way man, it's just the muscle getting its groove on! haha

 

Yeah depending when you took the photo it could have been water weight or just a bit of bloating from food. Maybe try taking a picture in the morning for comparison, when you aren't filled up on food :)

 

If you decide on a list of foods you will eat every day basically, meal planning can be pretty easy. Once you have foods that fill your macros and give you your micro-nutrients as well, you can eat them every day and always know you are getting what you need.

 

What is the sugar like in those cheerios? Got to be careful with cereals. I'm not sure though, maybe cheerios are one of the good ones?

 

8 avocados?! That is a lot lol. How big are they?

 

Loose skin really only occurs when you go from being obese to skinny. The amount of fat you are carrying, I don't think loose skin is going to be an issue for you at all.

 

Click on the word INTERMITTENT FASTING (see it is blue?) and it will take you to an FAQ all about it, which also includes a link to @Erica-Stibich's article! Check it out!

 

Hope that helps.

 

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Hey @Joehurricane,

Thanks for the reply bother which i greatly appreciate your time and encourgement with my all my questions man.

 

-When you say there is not a whole lot of fat on my arms I will kinda agree with lol but is it not true that when Arnold quotes if it jiggles its fat, is it not true cause underneath my tricep is when it jiggles a whole lot and it is not seeming to get any bigger or tighter personally.

 

-What video? lol If you meant to post it I do not see it.

 

-I always look better in the morning cause its when I first wake up of course but as the day goes on thats when I start to look fatter and I guess that is normal due to the macros I am consuming. Really have no idea lol.

 

-The list of foods are basically just my kroger brand chicken breast with rib meat/boneless and my whole grain rice with broccoli sometimes or the avacdo. Currently is the simplest so far for me to do and is the cheapest.

 

-The cheerios are actually relly low on sugar and its what I eat if I need a little enegery booster late at night when I am hungry. Only have one bowl though.

 

-Haha I dont eat all those avacdos in one day haha that would be crazy. I usually eat one a day lol.

 

-Im going to check out that link after this post and ill let you know what I think of it man and if I have anymore questions about it.

 

-My last thing is today I cooked all my macros and put it all together but I do have a question if I did it right and if you have any advice for me. Ill post the pictures below. Basically in 4 meals total i got 132 grams of carbs, 24 grams of fat and 184 grams of protein. Supposed to have 144 grams of carbs, 236 grams of protein and 65 grams of fat. Didnt quite hit so ill have an apple or banna throughout the day.

Hahaha sorry man, I was supposed to post this video but totally missed putting it in my post. Here it is

 

Yeah I have heard Arnold's quote...I suppose it is hard to say without seeing your tricep haha. But if you look in this thread - http://muscularstrength.com/forums.php?pageAction=POSTS&subForumID=88&threadID=2147 - John pointed out that muscles are slightly loose until you flex them.

 

Cheerios sound OK. But are you training at night? If you're not training at night maybe have something protein-based before bed instead of carb-based.

 

Well if there is 8 ounces of chicken, you have about 50g worth of protein in each container, equalling about 200g protein all up. Probably 210g or so with your rice. Is there 1 cup of cooked rice (1/2cup uncooked) in each container, 1 cup of uncooked rice (2 cups cooked)? That will determine what amount of carbs you have there. I'm not sure here, but I think you will find 1/2 cup of cooked brown rice will give you about 33g carbs, and 1/2cup cooked would come from 1/4 cup dry. Meaning 1/2 cup uncooked rice will be more like 66g carbs. But I might be wrong.

 

Are you sure you are getting enough fat? One small/medium avocado (100g) has about 15g fat. One avocado a day, plus all your meals, still probably only adds up to 30-40g fat. Were you able to add some oil?

 

Hope that helps!

 

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@Joehurricane,

  Im going to watch the video right afer I post this bro and haha that was my thread lol and yes he did post that out which I remember lol.

 

-I usually only eat the cheerios on a night after I am done playing basketball.

 

-The picture I posted from the webiste MyFitnessPal shows exactly what I did and used. What I used exactly for all 4 meals was a Kroger brand Boneless chicken breast with rib meat, 8 ounces (112 g) and Kroger brand- Whole grain rice 1/2 cup uncooked and 1 cup cooked. Each meal has 1 cup of cooked rice and 8 ounces of chicken. and the protein is 46 grams per meal... fat is 6 grams per meal and carbs is 33 grams per meal.

 

-I might not be getting my exact fat but I know if I am not that its not to far off. I gotta start counting that wih the avacdos or apples or bannas I eat every so often.

 

-Anyways heres a video of me yesterday with my arm jiggling. My arms usually jiggles a lot more then that and I do not know why it was not jiggling as much but as you can see it is jiggling enough to be noticeable and annoying.

I can't seem to see the video if you did post it? Upload it to YouTube, copy the URL and then use the 'Insert video' button.

 

So the rice says that 1/2 cup uncooked = 33g carbs? You're sure it's not 1/2 cooked that = 33g carbs instead?

 

Yeah man definitely get all of your macros sorted. 6g fat per meal times 4 meals = 24g fat, so that would mean you are a fair way off your goal of 60g. If you aren't getting enough calories, growth simply won't come as quickly as it could. The avocados will definitely give you some good fats, the apples and bananas will mostly add to your carb intake.

 

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