Join Now
Menu
Results 1 to 13 of 13
Page 1 of 1
Jump to page:
Jump To:
  • 11-13-17, 12:05 pm (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 13, 2017, 12:05 pm

    So this may be a hard topic, so just a little bit 'bout myself first:

    I'm working in an 8 to 5 job (Europe, so not 9 to 5), sitting on my ass most of the time. I do need my coffee in the morning (won't get rid of this, no way), but I mostly drink water whenever possible. Of course I'm having a couple of beers from time to time when I go out on weekends, but that's about it. Hardly any soft drinks with sugar or anything like that.

    So besides from hitting the gym for like 2 months now, I would also like to improve my nutrition a little bit. I still fancy pasta very much and I do eat a lot of meat during my weekdays, anything from chicken to turkey, beef and pork, some fish from time to time. But my main two problems are:

    - I can't spend too much on absolute quality stuff, since groceries in Switzerland are quite expensive and I just don't earn that much.

    - I don't like vegetables. This is my main issue. Of course I eat tomatoes, carrots, red peppers and corn, but I simply don't like spinach, fennel, cauliflower, broccoli, aspargus or anything like that. I just can't stand the taste of it. I tried it several times, but it just makes me throw up - for real.

     

    So I'd really appreciate some tips on how to improve my nutrition in order to gain the most profit out of my workout. Yes, I do use some whey protein already and try to support my body with some scrambled eggs on weekends, but from Monday to Thursday I simply don't have much time to spend in the kitchen besides working and hitting the gym. Besides that, I'm a terrible cook ^^

  • 11-13-17, 2:17 pm (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 13, 2017, 2:17 pm
    Posted by: bumi

    So this may be a hard topic, so just a little bit 'bout myself first:

    I'm working in an 8 to 5 job (Europe, so not 9 to 5), sitting on my ass most of the time. I do need my coffee in the morning (won't get rid of this, no way), but I mostly drink water whenever possible. Of course I'm having a couple of beers from time to time when I go out on weekends, but that's about it. Hardly any soft drinks with sugar or anything like that.

    So besides from hitting the gym for like 2 months now, I would also like to improve my nutrition a little bit. I still fancy pasta very much and I do eat a lot of meat during my weekdays, anything from chicken to turkey, beef and pork, some fish from time to time. But my main two problems are:

    - I can't spend too much on absolute quality stuff, since groceries in Switzerland are quite expensive and I just don't earn that much.

    - I don't like vegetables. This is my main issue. Of course I eat tomatoes, carrots, red peppers and corn, but I simply don't like spinach, fennel, cauliflower, broccoli, aspargus or anything like that. I just can't stand the taste of it. I tried it several times, but it just makes me throw up - for real.

     

    So I'd really appreciate some tips on how to improve my nutrition in order to gain the most profit out of my workout. Yes, I do use some whey protein already and try to support my body with some scrambled eggs on weekends, but from Monday to Thursday I simply don't have much time to spend in the kitchen besides working and hitting the gym. Besides that, I'm a terrible cook ^^

    Whats your macros and training plan ?

     

    When training eating is the most important part, it is not for everyone. One HAS to make time for quality food in order to suppoert good training habbits, no other way around it.

     

    You say you take whey protein and use some scrambled eggs ? Do you eat enough protein ?

     

    Whey protein is a waste in my opinion, I would rather cook food and have it with me to work. I understand not everyone has time... or wants to make time, but like I said training / bodybuilding isnt made for everyone.

     

    You present an interesting issue with the vegetables. If you cant stand the taste thats fine, keep eating the vegetables you like, maybe start drinking some smoothies, should be good. You can check with the doctor how your vitamin storages are and get good advice from there.

    William Steinset
    MS Athelete / Super Hermanite
    SHF

  • 11-13-17, 4:51 pm (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 13, 2017, 4:51 pm
    Posted by: bumi

    So this may be a hard topic, so just a little bit 'bout myself first:

    I'm working in an 8 to 5 job (Europe, so not 9 to 5), sitting on my ass most of the time. I do need my coffee in the morning (won't get rid of this, no way), but I mostly drink water whenever possible. Of course I'm having a couple of beers from time to time when I go out on weekends, but that's about it. Hardly any soft drinks with sugar or anything like that.

    So besides from hitting the gym for like 2 months now, I would also like to improve my nutrition a little bit. I still fancy pasta very much and I do eat a lot of meat during my weekdays, anything from chicken to turkey, beef and pork, some fish from time to time. But my main two problems are:

    - I can't spend too much on absolute quality stuff, since groceries in Switzerland are quite expensive and I just don't earn that much.

    - I don't like vegetables. This is my main issue. Of course I eat tomatoes, carrots, red peppers and corn, but I simply don't like spinach, fennel, cauliflower, broccoli, aspargus or anything like that. I just can't stand the taste of it. I tried it several times, but it just makes me throw up - for real.

     

    So I'd really appreciate some tips on how to improve my nutrition in order to gain the most profit out of my workout. Yes, I do use some whey protein already and try to support my body with some scrambled eggs on weekends, but from Monday to Thursday I simply don't have much time to spend in the kitchen besides working and hitting the gym. Besides that, I'm a terrible cook ^^

    Great advice from William!

     

    @bumi when it comes to vegetables, there isn't a universal law where you HAVE to eat particular ones.. so if you have vegetables you enjoy, stick with them. If you're worried about missing out on some vitamins and minerals (which is OK, even if you were having the vegetables you don't like, chances are you would miss some), then grab yourself a multivitamin. If you REALLY want to include some of the vegetables you don't like, put them in a smoothie with things like oats, peanut butter, whey, milk and cinnamon to disguise their taste.

     

    When it comes to quality food.. just get as much quality as you can. It doesn't have to be 100%, but it should be the MAJORITY of your diet. Just go to the @mealplan page to figure out what macros you should be following, then work on finding foods you can eat to hit those macros, with most of them being nutririous whole foods. You can also use the @mealplan app to find foods or previous @mealplan ideas if you're struggling when it comes to filling your diet.

     

    Hope that helps!

    Need 1 on 1 coaching? Send me a direct message to learn more!

  • 11-13-17, 9:06 pm (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 13, 2017, 9:06 pm
    Posted by: bumi

    So this may be a hard topic, so just a little bit 'bout myself first:

    I'm working in an 8 to 5 job (Europe, so not 9 to 5), sitting on my ass most of the time. I do need my coffee in the morning (won't get rid of this, no way), but I mostly drink water whenever possible. Of course I'm having a couple of beers from time to time when I go out on weekends, but that's about it. Hardly any soft drinks with sugar or anything like that.

    So besides from hitting the gym for like 2 months now, I would also like to improve my nutrition a little bit. I still fancy pasta very much and I do eat a lot of meat during my weekdays, anything from chicken to turkey, beef and pork, some fish from time to time. But my main two problems are:

    - I can't spend too much on absolute quality stuff, since groceries in Switzerland are quite expensive and I just don't earn that much.

    - I don't like vegetables. This is my main issue. Of course I eat tomatoes, carrots, red peppers and corn, but I simply don't like spinach, fennel, cauliflower, broccoli, aspargus or anything like that. I just can't stand the taste of it. I tried it several times, but it just makes me throw up - for real.

     

    So I'd really appreciate some tips on how to improve my nutrition in order to gain the most profit out of my workout. Yes, I do use some whey protein already and try to support my body with some scrambled eggs on weekends, but from Monday to Thursday I simply don't have much time to spend in the kitchen besides working and hitting the gym. Besides that, I'm a terrible cook ^^

    The main goal of nutrition is to supply the body with energy, the necessary components for cellular growth and repair, and micro-nutrients to power critical body bio-chemical processes. Out of the 3 Macros - Protein, Fat, and Carbs - you need to have enough balance of food to meet these criteria above. Fruits and vegetables are micro-nutrient powerhouses and the source for the majority of the micro-nutrients your body needs daily for optimal health.

     

    While there a certain vegetables you said you don't enjoy eating, you still listed some that you do eat. As long as you eat more than just one particular fruit or vegetable, you will be OK. It still won't be as optimal a combination as eating a wider variety but it will be enough to positively impact your nutrition. My suggestion would be to eat whatever vegetables and fruits you both like and can afford everyday and you should be OK.

     

    John

    34 years of lifting and nutritional experience and resident "old man" :-)
    MS Athlete and past Super Hermanite since 2013.

  • 11-14-17, 1:19 am (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 14, 2017, 1:19 am

    First of all, thanks for the replies.

     

    @william:

    just to make sure you didn't get this wrong: I am using the whey protein as a supplement after training. I do not replace any of my meals with it. As for the eggs, I like preparing them scrambled or boiled on weekends, since I do have the time for it. I get up at 06:40 every morning and get back home like 5:30 p.m. every day before I even have the opportunity to hit the gym.

     

     

    So I will check for some smoothies and have an outlook for some recipes based on the vegetables I like, but are easy and quick to prepare. If I need to spend my evenings in the kitchen I just won't have enough time for myself to rest and enjoy some freetime, which still is very important to me. So I'd like to be done with everything (work, gym, cooking, eating, doing the dishes) by 08.00 p.m. each day without any of those things having to suffer.

  • 11-14-17, 10:47 pm (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 14, 2017, 10:47 pm
    Posted by: bumi

    First of all, thanks for the replies.

     

    @william:

    just to make sure you didn't get this wrong: I am using the whey protein as a supplement after training. I do not replace any of my meals with it. As for the eggs, I like preparing them scrambled or boiled on weekends, since I do have the time for it. I get up at 06:40 every morning and get back home like 5:30 p.m. every day before I even have the opportunity to hit the gym.

     

     

    So I will check for some smoothies and have an outlook for some recipes based on the vegetables I like, but are easy and quick to prepare. If I need to spend my evenings in the kitchen I just won't have enough time for myself to rest and enjoy some freetime, which still is very important to me. So I'd like to be done with everything (work, gym, cooking, eating, doing the dishes) by 08.00 p.m. each day without any of those things having to suffer.

    You can always cook in bulk at the start of the week as well.. that way you wouldn't have to cook all of your meals daily. If that works easier for you it might be worth looking into 😊 

    Need 1 on 1 coaching? Send me a direct message to learn more!

  • 11-15-17, 2:45 am (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 15, 2017, 2:45 am

    Thanks Scott, I will have to look into that. Although Swiss fridges are not that big like in the US, therefore my space is limited πŸ˜‰ 

     

    I still have a hard time working on a suitable meal plan for me, haven't checked out your app yet tho. Is a monthly subscription needed in order to take advantage of the mealplan, or is it a one time only buy in?

     

     

    By the way: I think it's absolutely great and admirable seeing you as a busy guy contributing and taking part in your community as well, answering questions and all that. Highly appreciated!

  • 11-15-17, 9:52 am (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 15, 2017, 9:52 am
    Posted by: bumi

    First of all, thanks for the replies.

     

    @william:

    just to make sure you didn't get this wrong: I am using the whey protein as a supplement after training. I do not replace any of my meals with it. As for the eggs, I like preparing them scrambled or boiled on weekends, since I do have the time for it. I get up at 06:40 every morning and get back home like 5:30 p.m. every day before I even have the opportunity to hit the gym.

     

     

    So I will check for some smoothies and have an outlook for some recipes based on the vegetables I like, but are easy and quick to prepare. If I need to spend my evenings in the kitchen I just won't have enough time for myself to rest and enjoy some freetime, which still is very important to me. So I'd like to be done with everything (work, gym, cooking, eating, doing the dishes) by 08.00 p.m. each day without any of those things having to suffer.

    I understand but I still think whey protein is a waste. Almost every product contains stimulants and sweetners that will in turn mess around with your heart rythm. Plus the added sugar is always bad for you. Thats why I stick to food and never take any supplements. With food I know what I am getting, but in supplements there can be all kinds of stuff thats unhealthy. In addition many supplements contain illegal substances that isnt even on the label. Thus I think it is best to steer away from them, but we all have to make our own choices.

    William Steinset
    MS Athelete / Super Hermanite
    SHF

  • 11-15-17, 10:20 am (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 15, 2017, 10:20 am
    Posted by: William_Steinset

    I understand but I still think whey protein is a waste. Almost every product contains stimulants and sweetners that will in turn mess around with your heart rythm. Plus the added sugar is always bad for you. Thats why I stick to food and never take any supplements. With food I know what I am getting, but in supplements there can be all kinds of stuff thats unhealthy. In addition many supplements contain illegal substances that isnt even on the label. Thus I think it is best to steer away from them, but we all have to make our own choices.

    This is the one I'm using, if you'd like to know: Myprotein Whey

     

    A friend of mine, who's been working out for a couple of years now, suggested this brand to me. He's an all natural, relying heavily on his nutrition with a lot of veggies and low carb meals, read several books about the topics etc. I guess he wouldn't recommend anything he'd consider as being unhealthy or bad.

     

    But of course, as you just said - maybe there's some hidden ingredients we don't know about.

  • 11-15-17, 1:59 pm (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 15, 2017, 1:59 pm
    Posted by: bumi

    This is the one I'm using, if you'd like to know: Myprotein Whey

     

    A friend of mine, who's been working out for a couple of years now, suggested this brand to me. He's an all natural, relying heavily on his nutrition with a lot of veggies and low carb meals, read several books about the topics etc. I guess he wouldn't recommend anything he'd consider as being unhealthy or bad.

     

    But of course, as you just said - maybe there's some hidden ingredients we don't know about.

    Yeah there are brands that work well compared to others. But food is always the better option no matter what. Protein quality is different, eggs and chicken for instance have some of the highest protein quality + there are other vitamins and minerals etc that are extremely helpfull. Using protein powder isnt the worst thing one can use of course, but food will always be the best option.

    William Steinset
    MS Athelete / Super Hermanite
    SHF

  • 11-15-17, 10:29 pm (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 15, 2017, 10:29 pm
    Posted by: bumi

    Thanks Scott, I will have to look into that. Although Swiss fridges are not that big like in the US, therefore my space is limited πŸ˜‰ 

     

    I still have a hard time working on a suitable meal plan for me, haven't checked out your app yet tho. Is a monthly subscription needed in order to take advantage of the mealplan, or is it a one time only buy in?

     

     

    By the way: I think it's absolutely great and admirable seeing you as a busy guy contributing and taking part in your community as well, answering questions and all that. Highly appreciated!

    What about Swiss freezers? haha. Just do what you can, maybe cook 3 days worth of meals in advance if you don't have enough room to store an entire week's worth.

     

    You will need to be a platinum member to access the meal plan but it's pretty complete and worthwhile! https://muscularstrength.com/join

     

    And you are welcome! I do my best to respond and help when I can!

    Need 1 on 1 coaching? Send me a direct message to learn more!

  • 11-16-17, 10:43 am (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 16, 2017, 10:43 am
    Posted by: bumi

    This is the one I'm using, if you'd like to know: Myprotein Whey

     

    A friend of mine, who's been working out for a couple of years now, suggested this brand to me. He's an all natural, relying heavily on his nutrition with a lot of veggies and low carb meals, read several books about the topics etc. I guess he wouldn't recommend anything he'd consider as being unhealthy or bad.

     

    But of course, as you just said - maybe there's some hidden ingredients we don't know about.

    Main thing to remember is "Supplement, don't substitute" - Whey protein is a convenience and should rarely (if ever) be used as a sole source of nutrition.

    Old enough to know better, young enough not to care.
    I'm an eternal rookie - As soon as I stop learning I start dying.

  • 11-17-17, 12:04 am (EST)

    Improving my nutrition without vegetables

    November 17, 2017, 12:04 am
    Posted by: jcgadfly

    Main thing to remember is "Supplement, don't substitute" - Whey protein is a convenience and should rarely (if ever) be used as a sole source of nutrition.

    Right on @jcgadfly!! Just needs to be used to fill the gaps when/if you need more protein 😁 

    Need 1 on 1 coaching? Send me a direct message to learn more!

Results 1 to 13 of 13
Page 1 of 1
Jump to page:
Jump To: