445 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: Gain MuscleDate Joined: October 10, 2013
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Do push ups on an iron gym pull up bar count as incline push ups or does my upper body have to be higher? And since theres a confusion between decline and incline push ups, decline is when your feet is higher than your upper body, and incline is when your upper body is higher than your feet.
Here are some pictures of what the push ups look like on the pull up bar.
In the second link, her upper body is raised a bit higher than the first picture.
7.1K Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: BodybuildingDate Joined: August 8, 2008
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If in relation to an INCLINE BENCH, your feet would have to be HIGHER than your chest when doing a push-up. It is the opposite. Just think about the angle of your arms :)
You CAN use the iron gym... but in my opinion the angle isn't extreme enough. But it is a start!
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453 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: BodybuildingDate Joined: December 12, 1969
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Yeah actually having your feet elevated is going to work more upper chest, and having your upper body elevated is going to work more lower chest.
16 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: Gain MuscleDate Joined: December 12, 2013
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In general, YES it counts. Nothing wrong with it. but I'd just stick with basic floor push ups or put your feet up higher to increase difficulty. Also different hand placements will target different areas a little more than others. Now, if your doing incline push ups to target lower chest, i'd suggest you'd be better off with dips for that.
And here's my quick tip on how to increase push up numbers... start with a diamond hand position, do as many as you can, then go standard hand position, do as many as you can, then wide hand position, as many as you can. You'd be surprised at how many more push ups you can bang out in a row.
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54 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: Gain MuscleDate Joined: March 3, 2014
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Having your feet doesn't make the push up hit the upper chest, it depends on the angle. You arms need to be more angled to upper chest, so yes that one would work but it should be a bit higher.
The reason why with feet elevated for some people work is since they automaticly put there hands more forward and make the angle in arms diffrent.
Doesn't matter if you have no elevation or super elevation aslong you push with your hands infront of your chest and some few degreens up or down you will hit middle chest. Then having arms straight up to some degrees down will hit shoulders and then after that it will hit upper chest and at bottom it will hit lower chest.
So for example imagine your arms haning from your body down and then another guy stands beside you and has hes arm straight up since he just pressed a barbell in military positon. From hes postion down to your arm position is 180 degrees.
So 0 to 70 degree is dominated by lower chest, 70 to 110 degree is dominated by middle chest, 110 to 140 degree is dominated by upper chest and then 140 to 180 is dominated by anterior deltoid which is front shoulder.
The exact degrees hasen't been scientificly proven yet, but they are somewhere around thoose degrees. Ofc it can change a little bit depending from person to person.
518 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: BodybuildingDate Joined: October 10, 2013
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I agree with you about the angles of shoulder joint and relation to area of chest targeted but there is no such thing as the middle chest. Anatomically speaking you can only stimulate the lower and upper chest.
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54 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: Gain MuscleDate Joined: March 3, 2014
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I have studied many subject to get my training going fast and you're wrong there is upper, middle, lower chest muscles. Just most people can't get shredded enough to see the seperation on all 3 muscles. Like same with Trapz which is also 3 muscles but hard to see that too unless the person is super shredded.
518 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: BodybuildingDate Joined: October 10, 2013
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Sorry mate but honestly there is only two heads of the pec major: clavicular (upper) and sternal (lower)
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54 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: Gain MuscleDate Joined: March 3, 2014
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Sorry mate there is not even thoose, all muscles we got on the body is just 1 big muscles. So i wonder why people split up the body, they must be confused. :s
518 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: BodybuildingDate Joined: October 10, 2013
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There are clearly seperate muscles! They have seperate origins and insertions, nerve innervations and actions.
Please check an anatomy book about the pecs mate.
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183 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: Train for a sportDate Joined: February 2, 2014
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Jonas, don't be rude.
Looking from anatomy view, the are two chest muscles. Because of it's size you can stimulate them in different angles and ways, so you can split in lower, middle and upper section, also in inner and outer chest area.
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54 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: Gain MuscleDate Joined: March 3, 2014
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Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's truth....... -.-'
You just showed me that you are just a sheep who just follows what other people say....no point to discuss this anymore with you since you clearly don't know anything about anatomi.
518 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: BodybuildingDate Joined: October 10, 2013
Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's truth....... -.-'
You just showed me that you are just a sheep who just follows what other people say....no point to discuss this anymore with you since you clearly don't know anything about anatomi.
Seriously mate, I don't mean to be rude but are you being purposely thick? For one I studied anatomy for 3 years from one of the best anatomy lecturers in London. Secondly, I studied anatomy on cadavers. Now surely even you cannot argue with the findings on actual people?
This is such a simple, well-known fact I literally have no idea why you are arguing this.
There is only 2 heads of the pectoralis major; the clavicular and the sternal. You cannot stimulate the outer, inner, middle chest because they are simply non-exsistent.
Also why would I listen to someone trying to educate me about anatomy when they can't even spell it?
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54 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: Gain MuscleDate Joined: March 3, 2014
Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's truth....... -.-'
You just showed me that you are just a sheep who just follows what other people say....no point to discuss this anymore with you since you clearly don't know anything about anatomi.
Seriously mate, I don't mean to be rude but are you being purposely thick? For one I studied anatomy for 3 years from one of the best anatomy lecturers in London. Secondly, I studied anatomy on cadavers. Now surely even you cannot argue with the findings on actual people?
This is such a simple, well-known fact I literally have no idea why you are arguing this.
There is only 2 heads of the pectoralis major; the clavicular and the sternal. You cannot stimulate the outer, inner, middle chest because they are simply non-exsistent.
Also why would I listen to someone trying to educate me about anatomy when they can't even spell it?
1. I can spell anatomy, it's just that i know alot of languages and 1 of these is swedish where it is written like "anatomi" the last letter in the word just changes. I hang on forums where it is english language, finnish language, swedish language so some times i might by misstake/early mornings mix up words from diffrent languages.
No there is 3 chest muscles upper, middle, lower also i have not mentioned inner or outer chest since thoose doesn't exist. Yeah you mean same well-known fact when it in the old ages was well-known fact that the planet was flat and the sun did rotate around the earth?........
Congratulations on wasting 3 years of you're time considering you diden't even know the basics of the chest muscle. For your information i have studied these fields since i was 15:
Physics
History
Anatomy
Biomechanics
Biology
Nutrition
Psychology
And many more fields just to make sure i train good and get fast results which i have done so far, added 6kg/13,2Lbs of muscle on 1 month when i was 100% serious and thats drug free. If i started to use steroids i would be ready to compete in 1-2 years max with weight of +120Kgs in pure muscles so basicly i would compete at Mr.Olympia top in 1-2 years.
Earlier people even said there is no such thing as upper or lower chest, but then people changed and saided that there is actually that. And in the future people will have changed and said there is actually 3 chest muscles.
Just a question do you know how a muscle fiber works? What happens when a muscle fiber contracts?
It's like you would say that Shrugs train the lower trapezius......
518 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: BodybuildingDate Joined: October 10, 2013
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You mean the sun doesn't rotate around earth? You learn something new everyday on these forums.
One thing I will certainly not be learning that is that there is a middle head of the pec major.
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54 Post(s)Gender: MaleGoal: Gain MuscleDate Joined: March 3, 2014
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As i said no point in talking with you, you are close minded and believe stuff without trying it aslong it is in a book. I feel sad for the current or the future kids you are gonna get. To live a whole 18 years of more with a dad who is not open minded.