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  • Posted On: 11-03-13, 2:58 pm (EST) #1

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    November 3, 2013, 2:58 pm

    Do push ups on an iron gym pull up bar count as incline push ups or does my upper body have to be higher? And since theres a confusion between decline and incline push ups, decline is when your feet is higher than your upper body, and incline is when your upper body is higher than your feet.

     

    Here are some pictures of what the push ups look like on the pull up bar.

     

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BZ77XIuDFB0/UcQpWjL2_vI/AAAAAAAAADw/22VKa-ie0bc/s1600/71Gd3v1PQrL._SL1500_.jpg

     

    http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/ubuy8877/J8024-003.jpg

     

    In the second link, her upper body is raised a bit higher than the first picture.

  • Posted On: 11-03-13, 5:13 pm (EST) #2

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    November 3, 2013, 5:13 pm
    Posted by: ohawkey

    Do push ups on an iron gym pull up bar count as incline push ups or does my upper body have to be higher? And since theres a confusion between decline and incline push ups, decline is when your feet is higher than your upper body, and incline is when your upper body is higher than your feet.

     

    Here are some pictures of what the push ups look like on the pull up bar.

     

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BZ77XIuDFB0/UcQpWjL2_vI/AAAAAAAAADw/22VKa-ie0bc/s1600/71Gd3v1PQrL._SL1500_.jpg

     

    http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/ubuy8877/J8024-003.jpg

     

    In the second link, her upper body is raised a bit higher than the first picture.

    If in relation to an INCLINE BENCH, your feet would have to be HIGHER than your chest when doing a push-up. It is the opposite.  Just think about the angle of your arms :)

    You CAN use the iron gym... but in my opinion the angle isn't extreme enough.  But it is a start!

  • Posted On: 11-04-13, 9:09 am (EST) #3

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    November 4, 2013, 9:09 am
    Posted by: ohawkey

    Do push ups on an iron gym pull up bar count as incline push ups or does my upper body have to be higher? And since theres a confusion between decline and incline push ups, decline is when your feet is higher than your upper body, and incline is when your upper body is higher than your feet.

     

    Here are some pictures of what the push ups look like on the pull up bar.

     

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BZ77XIuDFB0/UcQpWjL2_vI/AAAAAAAAADw/22VKa-ie0bc/s1600/71Gd3v1PQrL._SL1500_.jpg

     

    http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/ubuy8877/J8024-003.jpg

     

    In the second link, her upper body is raised a bit higher than the first picture.

    Yeah actually having your feet elevated is going to work more upper chest, and having your upper body elevated is going to work more lower chest. 

  • Posted On: 01-09-14, 3:36 am (EST) #4

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    January 9, 2014, 3:36 am

    In general, YES it counts. Nothing wrong with it. but I'd just stick with basic floor push ups or put your feet up higher to increase difficulty. Also different hand placements will target different areas a little more than others. Now, if your doing incline push ups to target lower chest, i'd suggest you'd be better off with dips for that.

     

    And here's my quick tip on how to increase push up numbers... start with a diamond hand position, do as many as you can, then go standard hand position, do as many as you can, then wide hand position, as many as you can. You'd be surprised at how many more push ups you can bang out in a row.

     

    Best of Luck!

  • Posted On: 03-07-14, 2:23 pm (EST) #5

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 7, 2014, 2:23 pm

    Having your feet doesn't make the push up hit the upper chest, it depends on the angle. You arms need to be more angled to upper chest, so yes that one would work but it should be a bit higher.

     

    The reason why with feet elevated for some people work is since they automaticly put there hands more forward and make the angle in arms diffrent.

     

    Doesn't matter if you have no elevation or super elevation aslong you push with your hands infront of your chest and some few degreens up or down you will hit middle chest. Then having arms straight up to some degrees down will hit shoulders and then after that it will hit upper chest and at bottom it will hit lower chest.

     

    So for example imagine your arms haning from your body down and then another guy stands beside you and has hes arm straight up since he just pressed a barbell in military positon. From hes postion down to your arm position is 180 degrees.

     

    So 0 to 70 degree is dominated by lower chest, 70 to 110 degree is dominated by middle chest, 110 to 140 degree is dominated by upper chest and then 140 to 180 is dominated by anterior deltoid which is front shoulder.

    The exact degrees hasen't been scientificly proven yet, but they are somewhere around thoose degrees. Ofc it can change a little bit depending from person to person.

  • Posted On: 03-07-14, 3:56 pm (EST) #6

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 7, 2014, 3:56 pm
    Posted by: Jonas33

    Having your feet doesn't make the push up hit the upper chest, it depends on the angle. You arms need to be more angled to upper chest, so yes that one would work but it should be a bit higher.

     

    The reason why with feet elevated for some people work is since they automaticly put there hands more forward and make the angle in arms diffrent.

     

    Doesn't matter if you have no elevation or super elevation aslong you push with your hands infront of your chest and some few degreens up or down you will hit middle chest. Then having arms straight up to some degrees down will hit shoulders and then after that it will hit upper chest and at bottom it will hit lower chest.

     

    So for example imagine your arms haning from your body down and then another guy stands beside you and has hes arm straight up since he just pressed a barbell in military positon. From hes postion down to your arm position is 180 degrees.

     

    So 0 to 70 degree is dominated by lower chest, 70 to 110 degree is dominated by middle chest, 110 to 140 degree is dominated by upper chest and then 140 to 180 is dominated by anterior deltoid which is front shoulder.

    The exact degrees hasen't been scientificly proven yet, but they are somewhere around thoose degrees. Ofc it can change a little bit depending from person to person.

    I agree with you about the angles of shoulder joint and relation to area of chest targeted but there is no such thing as the middle chest. Anatomically speaking you can only stimulate the lower and upper chest.

  • Posted On: 03-07-14, 4:51 pm (EST) #7

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 7, 2014, 4:51 pm
    Posted by: Daniel_Meyer

    I agree with you about the angles of shoulder joint and relation to area of chest targeted but there is no such thing as the middle chest. Anatomically speaking you can only stimulate the lower and upper chest.

    I have studied many subject to get my training going fast and you're wrong there is upper, middle, lower chest muscles. Just most people can't get shredded enough to see the seperation on all 3 muscles. Like same with Trapz which is also 3 muscles but hard to see that too unless the person is super shredded.

     

  • Posted On: 03-07-14, 4:53 pm (EST) #8

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 7, 2014, 4:53 pm
    Posted by: Jonas33

    I have studied many subject to get my training going fast and you're wrong there is upper, middle, lower chest muscles. Just most people can't get shredded enough to see the seperation on all 3 muscles. Like same with Trapz which is also 3 muscles but hard to see that too unless the person is super shredded.

     

    Sorry mate but honestly there is only two heads of the pec major: clavicular (upper) and sternal (lower)

  • Posted On: 03-07-14, 5:04 pm (EST) #9

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 7, 2014, 5:04 pm
    Posted by: Daniel_Meyer

    Sorry mate but honestly there is only two heads of the pec major: clavicular (upper) and sternal (lower)

    Sorry mate there is not even thoose, all muscles we got on the body is just 1 big muscles. So i wonder why people split up the body, they must be confused. :s

  • Posted On: 03-07-14, 5:06 pm (EST) #10

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 7, 2014, 5:06 pm
    Posted by: Jonas33

    Sorry mate there is not even thoose, all muscles we got on the body is just 1 big muscles. So i wonder why people split up the body, they must be confused. :s

    There are clearly seperate muscles! They have seperate origins and insertions, nerve innervations and actions.

     

    Please check an anatomy book about the pecs mate.

  • Posted On: 03-07-14, 5:14 pm (EST) #11

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 7, 2014, 5:14 pm
    Posted by: Jonas33

    Sorry mate there is not even thoose, all muscles we got on the body is just 1 big muscles. So i wonder why people split up the body, they must be confused. :s

    Jonas, don't be rude.

    Looking from anatomy view, the are two chest muscles. Because of it's size you can stimulate them in different angles and ways, so you can split in lower, middle and upper section, also in inner and outer chest area.

     

    BR, Gregor

  • Posted On: 03-07-14, 5:34 pm (EST) #12

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 7, 2014, 5:34 pm
    Posted by: Daniel_Meyer

    There are clearly seperate muscles! They have seperate origins and insertions, nerve innervations and actions.

     

    Please check an anatomy book about the pecs mate.

    Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's truth....... -.-'

     

    You just showed me that you are just a sheep who just follows what other people say....no point to discuss this anymore with you since you clearly don't know anything about anatomi.

  • Posted On: 03-07-14, 5:41 pm (EST) #13

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 7, 2014, 5:41 pm
    Posted by: Jonas33

    Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's truth....... -.-'

     

    You just showed me that you are just a sheep who just follows what other people say....no point to discuss this anymore with you since you clearly don't know anything about anatomi.

    Posted by: Jonas33

    Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's truth....... -.-'

     

    You just showed me that you are just a sheep who just follows what other people say....no point to discuss this anymore with you since you clearly don't know anything about anatomi.

    Seriously mate, I don't mean to be rude but are you being purposely thick? For one I studied anatomy for 3 years from one of the best anatomy lecturers in London. Secondly, I studied anatomy on cadavers. Now surely even you cannot argue with the findings on actual people?

     

    This is such a simple, well-known fact I literally have no idea why you are arguing this.

     

    There is only 2 heads of the pectoralis major; the clavicular and the sternal. You cannot stimulate the outer, inner, middle chest because they are simply non-exsistent.

     

    Also why would I listen to someone trying to educate me about anatomy when they can't even spell it?

  • Posted On: 03-08-14, 2:00 am (EST) #14

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 8, 2014, 2:00 am
    Posted by: Daniel_Meyer
    Posted by: Jonas33

    Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's truth....... -.-'

     

    You just showed me that you are just a sheep who just follows what other people say....no point to discuss this anymore with you since you clearly don't know anything about anatomi.

    Seriously mate, I don't mean to be rude but are you being purposely thick? For one I studied anatomy for 3 years from one of the best anatomy lecturers in London. Secondly, I studied anatomy on cadavers. Now surely even you cannot argue with the findings on actual people?

     

    This is such a simple, well-known fact I literally have no idea why you are arguing this.

     

    There is only 2 heads of the pectoralis major; the clavicular and the sternal. You cannot stimulate the outer, inner, middle chest because they are simply non-exsistent.

     

    Also why would I listen to someone trying to educate me about anatomy when they can't even spell it?

    Posted by: Daniel_Meyer
    Posted by: Jonas33

    Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's truth....... -.-'

     

    You just showed me that you are just a sheep who just follows what other people say....no point to discuss this anymore with you since you clearly don't know anything about anatomi.

    Seriously mate, I don't mean to be rude but are you being purposely thick? For one I studied anatomy for 3 years from one of the best anatomy lecturers in London. Secondly, I studied anatomy on cadavers. Now surely even you cannot argue with the findings on actual people?

     

    This is such a simple, well-known fact I literally have no idea why you are arguing this.

     

    There is only 2 heads of the pectoralis major; the clavicular and the sternal. You cannot stimulate the outer, inner, middle chest because they are simply non-exsistent.

     

    Also why would I listen to someone trying to educate me about anatomy when they can't even spell it?

    1. I can spell anatomy, it's just that i know alot of languages and 1 of these is swedish where it is written like "anatomi" the last letter in the word just changes. I hang on forums where it is english language, finnish language, swedish language so some times i might by misstake/early mornings mix up words from diffrent languages.

     

    No there is 3 chest muscles upper, middle, lower also i have not mentioned inner or outer chest since thoose doesn't exist. Yeah you mean same well-known fact when it in the old ages was well-known fact that the planet was flat and the sun did rotate around the earth?........

     

    Congratulations on wasting 3 years of you're time considering you diden't even know the basics of the chest muscle. For your information i have studied these fields since i was 15:

     

    Physics

    History

    Anatomy

    Biomechanics

    Biology

    Nutrition

    Psychology

     

    And many more fields just to make sure i train good and get fast results which i have done so far, added 6kg/13,2Lbs of muscle on 1 month when i was 100% serious and thats drug free. If i started to use steroids i would be ready to compete in 1-2 years max with weight of +120Kgs in pure muscles so basicly i would compete at Mr.Olympia top in 1-2 years.

     

    Earlier people even said there is no such thing as upper or lower chest, but then people changed and saided that there is actually that. And in the future people will have changed and said there is actually 3 chest muscles.

     

    Just a question do you know how a muscle fiber works? What happens when a muscle fiber contracts?

     

     

     It's like you would say that Shrugs train the lower trapezius......

  • Posted On: 03-08-14, 3:50 am (EST) #15

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 8, 2014, 3:50 am
    Posted by: Jonas33
    Posted by: Daniel_Meyer
    Posted by: Jonas33

    Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's truth....... -.-'

     

    You just showed me that you are just a sheep who just follows what other people say....no point to discuss this anymore with you since you clearly don't know anything about anatomi.

    Seriously mate, I don't mean to be rude but are you being purposely thick? For one I studied anatomy for 3 years from one of the best anatomy lecturers in London. Secondly, I studied anatomy on cadavers. Now surely even you cannot argue with the findings on actual people?

     

    This is such a simple, well-known fact I literally have no idea why you are arguing this.

     

    There is only 2 heads of the pectoralis major; the clavicular and the sternal. You cannot stimulate the outer, inner, middle chest because they are simply non-exsistent.

     

    Also why would I listen to someone trying to educate me about anatomy when they can't even spell it?

    1. I can spell anatomy, it's just that i know alot of languages and 1 of these is swedish where it is written like "anatomi" the last letter in the word just changes. I hang on forums where it is english language, finnish language, swedish language so some times i might by misstake/early mornings mix up words from diffrent languages.

     

    No there is 3 chest muscles upper, middle, lower also i have not mentioned inner or outer chest since thoose doesn't exist. Yeah you mean same well-known fact when it in the old ages was well-known fact that the planet was flat and the sun did rotate around the earth?........

     

    Congratulations on wasting 3 years of you're time considering you diden't even know the basics of the chest muscle. For your information i have studied these fields since i was 15:

     

    Physics

    History

    Anatomy

    Biomechanics

    Biology

    Nutrition

    Psychology

     

    And many more fields just to make sure i train good and get fast results which i have done so far, added 6kg/13,2Lbs of muscle on 1 month when i was 100% serious and thats drug free. If i started to use steroids i would be ready to compete in 1-2 years max with weight of +120Kgs in pure muscles so basicly i would compete at Mr.Olympia top in 1-2 years.

     

    Earlier people even said there is no such thing as upper or lower chest, but then people changed and saided that there is actually that. And in the future people will have changed and said there is actually 3 chest muscles.

     

    Just a question do you know how a muscle fiber works? What happens when a muscle fiber contracts?

     

     

     It's like you would say that Shrugs train the lower trapezius......

    You mean the sun doesn't rotate around earth? You learn something new everyday on these forums.

    One thing I will certainly not be learning that is that there is a middle head of the pec major.

     

     

  • Posted On: 03-08-14, 4:29 am (EST) #16

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 8, 2014, 4:29 am

    As i said no point in talking with you, you are close minded and believe stuff without trying it aslong it is in a book. I feel sad for the current or the future kids you are gonna get. To live a whole 18 years of more with a dad who is not open minded.

  • Posted On: 03-08-14, 4:36 am (EST) #17

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 8, 2014, 4:36 am
    Posted by: Jonas33

    As i said no point in talking with you, you are close minded and believe stuff without trying it aslong it is in a book. I feel sad for the current or the future kids you are gonna get. To live a whole 18 years of more with a dad who is not open minded.

    Where's your evidence that there is 3 heads of the pec major?

    I actually can't wait to properly educate my children with factual books and not fiction.

  • Posted On: 03-08-14, 7:23 am (EST) #18

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 8, 2014, 7:23 am
    Posted by: Daniel_Meyer

    Where's your evidence that there is 3 heads of the pec major?

    I actually can't wait to properly educate my children with factual books and not fiction.

    Daniel dude...you are obviously wrong. There are indeed 3 heads on the chest muscle. Thats why there is incline,flat and decline benches...to hit all 3 chests equally! Otherwise, you wont get a balanced physique. Maybe you should think about becoming a farmer rather than studying anatomy and stuff...

    hahahahahahhah   #ilovetrolling

  • Posted On: 03-08-14, 7:45 am (EST) #19

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 8, 2014, 7:45 am
    Posted by: Whisper

    Daniel dude...you are obviously wrong. There are indeed 3 heads on the chest muscle. Thats why there is incline,flat and decline benches...to hit all 3 chests equally! Otherwise, you wont get a balanced physique. Maybe you should think about becoming a farmer rather than studying anatomy and stuff...

    hahahahahahhah   #ilovetrolling

    Hahahahahaha!!!!

     

    I knew I was wasting my time reading all them books and listening to highly educated anatomy lecturers! Who needs books anyway? They are clearly opinion based and wrote by people who are closed-minded.

     

    As of now due to my poor lack of basic anatomy I am resigning as a Super Hermanite and becoming a farmer.

     

     

  • Posted On: 03-08-14, 8:07 am (EST) #20

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 8, 2014, 8:07 am

    Guys, go on with personal messages about close mindness and children because that does NOT belong on forum!

     

    Jonas,

    SHF site and forum are friendly oriented to anyone, to provide informations and advices to anyone who need it. There are some members who are always trying to give away maximum effort to deal with problems and Daniel is one of them. We are not always with same opinions, but we always keep proffesional level about things we discuss (with researches, science, experiences,...) and we keep personal respect even we argue about something we don't agree! Because only that way we can offer quality informations to others.

     

    I think you studied at least one listed subject quite bad. If you put in google you will get workouts for upper, middle, lower, inner...chest. That's because exist science and broscience and because some things are generalized and after some time accepted as "truth". The most obvious thing or term is weight. When you step on scale, you measure your MASS, but we always talk about WEIGHT. Since you are european where we have metric unit system, mass is measured in kilograms and weight is measured in Newtons because weight is a force. I won't go further with generalization phenomenon.

     

    If you can't keep normal level of communication, don't participate or leave forum or you will be leaved. You showed at least disrespect to someone who is proffesional in his field beside that you didn't provide any useful informations to those who are begginers and without knowledge and want to get quality informations.

     

    BR, Gregor

  • Posted On: 03-11-14, 11:55 pm (EDT) #21

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 11, 2014, 11:55 pm
    Posted by: Jonas33

    Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's truth....... -.-'

     

    You just showed me that you are just a sheep who just follows what other people say....no point to discuss this anymore with you since you clearly don't know anything about anatomi.

    I just read the entire thread.

     

    Jonas33, I don't understand why someone who claims to be so smart would go about insulting respected members of this community as you have.

     

    Daniel_Meyer and GT-Turbo are both Super Hermanites and I brought them onboard as such because they are not only very well educated, but also polite and respectful of others and their opinions.

     

    You are basing your opinion on "books are wrong". You claim to have studied this since you were 15. Ok, I will be open minded.

     

    Please circle and label for me the third chest muscle on the image below.

     

    Also, please provide me with THREE sources to validate your opinion. Prove us wrong.

     

  • Posted On: 03-12-14, 1:12 pm (EDT) #22

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 12, 2014, 1:12 pm
    Posted by: Scott_Herman

    I just read the entire thread.

     

    Jonas33, I don't understand why someone who claims to be so smart would go about insulting respected members of this community as you have.

     

    Daniel_Meyer and GT-Turbo are both Super Hermanites and I brought them onboard as such because they are not only very well educated, but also polite and respectful of others and their opinions.

     

    You are basing your opinion on "books are wrong". You claim to have studied this since you were 15. Ok, I will be open minded.

     

    Please circle and label for me the third chest muscle on the image below.

     

    Also, please provide me with THREE sources to validate your opinion. Prove us wrong.

     

    Sorry for taking so long time on me.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAP4wGV-Oeo&feature=youtu.be

  • Posted On: 03-12-14, 1:12 pm (EDT) #23

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 12, 2014, 1:12 pm
    Posted by: Scott_Herman

    I just read the entire thread.

     

    Jonas33, I don't understand why someone who claims to be so smart would go about insulting respected members of this community as you have.

     

    Daniel_Meyer and GT-Turbo are both Super Hermanites and I brought them onboard as such because they are not only very well educated, but also polite and respectful of others and their opinions.

     

    You are basing your opinion on "books are wrong". You claim to have studied this since you were 15. Ok, I will be open minded.

     

    Please circle and label for me the third chest muscle on the image below.

     

    Also, please provide me with THREE sources to validate your opinion. Prove us wrong.

     

    Posted by: Scott_Herman

    I just read the entire thread.

     

    Jonas33, I don't understand why someone who claims to be so smart would go about insulting respected members of this community as you have.

     

    Daniel_Meyer and GT-Turbo are both Super Hermanites and I brought them onboard as such because they are not only very well educated, but also polite and respectful of others and their opinions.

     

    You are basing your opinion on "books are wrong". You claim to have studied this since you were 15. Ok, I will be open minded.

     

    Please circle and label for me the third chest muscle on the image below.

     

    Also, please provide me with THREE sources to validate your opinion. Prove us wrong.

     

    Sorry for taking so long time on me.

     

  • Posted On: 03-12-14, 2:11 pm (EDT) #24

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 12, 2014, 2:11 pm
    Posted by: Jonas33
    Posted by: Scott_Herman

    I just read the entire thread.

     

    Jonas33, I don't understand why someone who claims to be so smart would go about insulting respected members of this community as you have.

     

    Daniel_Meyer and GT-Turbo are both Super Hermanites and I brought them onboard as such because they are not only very well educated, but also polite and respectful of others and their opinions.

     

    You are basing your opinion on "books are wrong". You claim to have studied this since you were 15. Ok, I will be open minded.

     

    Please circle and label for me the third chest muscle on the image below.

     

    Also, please provide me with THREE sources to validate your opinion. Prove us wrong.

     

    Sorry for taking so long time on me.

     

    Hey Jonas33,

     

    I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. However you still did not provide concrete evidence or sited any sources that have documented that the chest is made up of more than the pec major and the pec minor.

     

    It seems like to me you are just talking about the visible striations in the pec major and minor when a person has low body fat.

     

    Thoughts?

  • Posted On: 03-12-14, 2:23 pm (EDT) #25

    Do Push Ups with Iron Gym Pull Up Bar count as Incline Push Ups?

    March 12, 2014, 2:23 pm
    Posted by: Jonas33

    Sorry for taking so long time on me.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAP4wGV-Oeo&feature=youtu.be

    Cant believe I spent 10 minutes watching this. I guess I did it just for fun. Your problem is that you are delusional.
    Not only that but you are mistaking muscle activation with actual muscle insertions. If you only do barbell bench press which is a horizontal push you will develop the WHOLE chest because you are activating the whole chest. You cant do any chest exercise to completely isolate an "area" of the chest.

    Anyway, there is no source out there in the internet that even remotely suggests that there are 3 muscles in the chest complex. Every bodybuilder-powerlifter-strength athlete, coach, licenced trainer knows that there is the clavicular part of the chest and the sternal part of the chest. So upper fibers and lower fibers that have different nerve endings and can be fired by the nervous system individually. There is absolutely no "middle" chest. You will never find any proof of it. Next time you talk about "real shredded" people, why dont you perform an autopsy on a dead human? This is the only way that you will be convinced at this point, so I feel like I m wasting my saliva here. And if this dead human doesnt have grown enough chest, why dont you dissect a dead bodybuilder to be completely satisfied?

    So there are 2 options here. Either we are correct and you are dead wrong...or you are the only one planet earth that is correct on this one, and you have actually uncovered another one of those conspiracies.


    Extremely good job finding out on your own that there is no inner and outer chest though :) Maybe make a video about the 4 different quad muscles next time.

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