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zacattack
zacattack g Zach Dowdell
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10 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Gain Muscle Date Joined: February 2, 2017
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Hey, I'm 20yr old, male 5'9" 190 pounds, I've been working out for a bit under 5 years now. But after 4 years I got really sick ended up in the ICU and lost pretty much all the progress I made. I got out of the hopsital and started working out again as soon as my doctor cleared me. Its been 8 months since then and I went from 150->200 pounds (did not track macros, or eat clean since family was worried about me being too restrictive), bench press increased from 95 pounds per working set to a little over 200 now, squat from 135 to 265, and deadlift from 135 to 285 . I started my cut at 2100 calories and got down to around 195, then dropped down further to 1740 calories (150P, 150C, 60F) and got to 190 pounds. After staying at that for a few weeks I still did not lose any weight. However I was still gaining strength which seemed kind of weird to me. Right now I'm increasing calories by around 100-150 per week because I'm thinking I just cut calories far to quick. Currently my macros are 160P, 190C, 65F and I am still increasing them on a weekly basis (next increase will be on Wednesday). My training is Chest/Tri/Shoulders and Back/Bi/Legs twice a week, I do abs and steady state cardio (30min) twice a week as well on my workout days. I also walk to class and back to my apartment which is around a 40-45 min of walking in addition to my cardio 5x a week. For some reason I am still gaining strength.

How high should I increase my calories before I start cutting down again? Anything else I can do to lose a couple of pounds as I am slowly increasing them? I'm just pretty confused on whats going on since I'm eating so little, not losing weight, and still getting stronger. Feels more like a recomp than a cut even when I was at 1740. 

Scott_Herman
Scott_Herman a Scott Herman
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7.1K Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Bodybuilding Date Joined: August 8, 2008
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Posted By: zacattack

Hey, I'm 20yr old, male 5'9" 190 pounds, I've been working out for a bit under 5 years now. But after 4 years I got really sick ended up in the ICU and lost pretty much all the progress I made. I got out of the hopsital and started working out again as soon as my doctor cleared me. Its been 8 months since then and I went from 150->200 pounds (did not track macros, or eat clean since family was worried about me being too restrictive), bench press increased from 95 pounds per working set to a little over 200 now, squat from 135 to 265, and deadlift from 135 to 285 . I started my cut at 2100 calories and got down to around 195, then dropped down further to 1740 calories (150P, 150C, 60F) and got to 190 pounds. After staying at that for a few weeks I still did not lose any weight. However I was still gaining strength which seemed kind of weird to me. Right now I'm increasing calories by around 100-150 per week because I'm thinking I just cut calories far to quick. Currently my macros are 160P, 190C, 65F and I am still increasing them on a weekly basis (next increase will be on Wednesday). My training is Chest/Tri/Shoulders and Back/Bi/Legs twice a week, I do abs and steady state cardio (30min) twice a week as well on my workout days. I also walk to class and back to my apartment which is around a 40-45 min of walking in addition to my cardio 5x a week. For some reason I am still gaining strength.

How high should I increase my calories before I start cutting down again? Anything else I can do to lose a couple of pounds as I am slowly increasing them? I'm just pretty confused on whats going on since I'm eating so little, not losing weight, and still getting stronger. Feels more like a recomp than a cut even when I was at 1740. 

Sounds like you definitely dove into your cut too fast - by that I mean you reduced your calories too much.

 

If you weren't tracking macros before, you could have been eating 3000-4000 calories per day, so you could have almost cut your calories in half for your cut, which probably wasn't necessary.

 

There's no set time for when you should stop increasing your calories and go back into a cut. It's all about how you feel and how you look. If you feel like you still want some more size before cutting, stick with the increasing calories. If you feel that you've got the size and want the shreds, halt the increase and maybe even maintain for a couple of weeks before going into a cut.

 

Have you thought about trying HIIT cardio as well? That could help boost your metbolism throughout the day, which will in turn help you burn more calories.

 

Circuit training a couple of times a week would be helpful in that department too - have you looked at the Push, Pull, Legs program and thought about using that to shed some fat?

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zacattack
zacattack g Zach Dowdell
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10 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Gain Muscle Date Joined: February 2, 2017
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Thanks for the response! I would try push pull legs but all I can do is 4x a week cause of school and work and I'll try HIIT then since it worked for me in the past when I played football in HS. So should I try to get to 3k calories (what the calculator on this site said I burn on an average day) before deciding if I wanna bulk up or cut again. Is my current rate of increasing good or should I try adding 200-300 per week?

Scott_Herman
Scott_Herman a Scott Herman
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Posted By: zacattack

Thanks for the response! I would try push pull legs but all I can do is 4x a week cause of school and work and I'll try HIIT then since it worked for me in the past when I played football in HS. So should I try to get to 3k calories (what the calculator on this site said I burn on an average day) before deciding if I wanna bulk up or cut again. Is my current rate of increasing good or should I try adding 200-300 per week?

Whether or not your current rate of increasing is good kind of depends on what the scale is doing - how fast is your weight increasing?

 

HIIT is definitely a prefered form of cardio for maintaining muscle and losing fat. If it worked before, hopefully it has simialr results now :-)

 

That's all good about your training - if it's only 4 days a week, you could try the bodybuilding split. It's actually 5 days, but instead of dedicating an entire day to abs, you could just split the ab work up between a couple of other workouts. There aren't circuits there, but you could add 1 or 2 on your off days if you have time - they're only 20 minute workouts :-)

 

But just doing HIIT might be enough for now anyway, so circuits would just be something extra as an option.

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zacattack
zacattack g Zach Dowdell
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10 Post(s) Gender: Male Goal: Gain Muscle Date Joined: February 2, 2017
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So far haven't gained any weight since I started adding calories back my weight fluctuates from around 189-192 which is pretty small so I'm just assuming its from normal day to day fluctuations and not actually gaining actual mass (whether fat or muscle).

Scott_Herman
Scott_Herman a Scott Herman
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Posted By: zacattack

So far haven't gained any weight since I started adding calories back my weight fluctuates from around 189-192 which is pretty small so I'm just assuming its from normal day to day fluctuations and not actually gaining actual mass (whether fat or muscle).

Yeah your weight will always fluctuate day-to-day, and morning-to-night as well. Try to weight yourself once a week, and in the morning after you wake up and go to the bathroom. That's the best time to get an accurate measure of your weight.

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NormanLogue g Norman Logue
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3 Post(s) Gender: Female Goal: Gain Muscle Date Joined: March 3, 2017
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There are various ways to lose weight. Some of them are-
-- The most important part is to cut back on sugars and starches
-- Drink coffee or tea
-- A programme entrainement sportif program. I found here more useful reference about it.
-- Eat a high-protein breakfast
-- Avoid sugary drinks and fruit juice
-- Drink water a half hour before meals

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